10/20 Turn fold w/ 99s full
07-18-2008
, 02:05 AM
Villians: MP is loose, 50/20/1 type, not extremely aggressive. No read on button, I don't remember what he was like.
UTG is a very solid 2p2 TAG. We have played a few thousand hands together. I don't think my image is overly nitty, but he probably views me as a marginal player (since I am).
I think this is probably an extremely bad fold, but I thought I would get other opinions on it. Getting 15:1 with only the river to extract value doesn't seem like quite enough. I don't think I'm getting more than 2 bets if I raise a river 9. But, coupled with the small chance that I'm ahead, I think I probably should call. However, with the action I've given in a capped and protected pot, I think I'm going to be ahead very little. Since villian is UTG and capping, I figure his range is likely AK, AQs, AA-JJ, maybe TT. Maybe this range is too tight.
Normally I would call this down baring an ace with my entire pair range. Which in this spot is probably 88+. I wouldn't 3bet 77 with the previous action.
Thoughts? Horrible?
PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 9
, 9
.
UTG raises, MP calls, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG caps, MP calls, Hero calls, Button calls.
Flop: (19.50 SB) 5, 5
, 5 (4 players)
UTG bets, MP folds, Hero raises, Button calls $19 (All-In), UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.
Turn: (14.20 BB) 4
(3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG bets, Hero folds
UTG is a very solid 2p2 TAG. We have played a few thousand hands together. I don't think my image is overly nitty, but he probably views me as a marginal player (since I am).
I think this is probably an extremely bad fold, but I thought I would get other opinions on it. Getting 15:1 with only the river to extract value doesn't seem like quite enough. I don't think I'm getting more than 2 bets if I raise a river 9. But, coupled with the small chance that I'm ahead, I think I probably should call. However, with the action I've given in a capped and protected pot, I think I'm going to be ahead very little. Since villian is UTG and capping, I figure his range is likely AK, AQs, AA-JJ, maybe TT. Maybe this range is too tight.
Normally I would call this down baring an ace with my entire pair range. Which in this spot is probably 88+. I wouldn't 3bet 77 with the previous action.
Thoughts? Horrible?
PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 9
, 9. UTG raises, MP calls, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG caps, MP calls, Hero calls, Button calls.
Flop: (19.50 SB) 5
, 5, 5 (4 players)UTG bets, MP folds, Hero raises, Button calls $19 (All-In), UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.
Turn: (14.20 BB) 4
(3 players, 1 all-in)UTG bets, Hero folds
07-18-2008
, 07:55 AM
I think the fold is all right. I seriously doubt you're ahead. If the 2+2er has a worse hand, though, then I think he deserves to lose to Button's 33 
.
Still, the turn call on its own only costs you about 1/4 BB even if you're certain you're behind, and at the table what I'd probably do is just call down and lose, hating the thought of seeing 77-88 for the TAG and AJo for Button at showdown with my hand folded.
.Still, the turn call on its own only costs you about 1/4 BB even if you're certain you're behind, and at the table what I'd probably do is just call down and lose, hating the thought of seeing 77-88 for the TAG and AJo for Button at showdown with my hand folded.
