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Is this what the NFL needs? (Michael Sam UNCHAINED) Is this what the NFL needs? (Michael Sam UNCHAINED)

05-12-2014 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
If he said no and just went about his business privately like most NFL prospect nobodies do, I would respect that a LOT. A LOT. It's like hey I'm gay, no big deal.
Luckily for the civilized world, Sam doesn't care what bigots want him to do and doesn't care about earning bigots' respect.

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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
And if I am bigot for my natural response being that way, then okie dokie Smokey. Don't care.
Hahaha, oh silverman, we know.
05-12-2014 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
Saying vague crap like this just shows that my points are valid.
Hahahahaha oh man, SM2 thinks that being too stupid to other stand other people's posts validates him? That's so cute, but no buddy, it just makes you a ****** in addition to your existing bigotry and racism.
05-12-2014 , 12:51 PM
Gunching : The NFL needs good players so yes.
05-12-2014 , 12:54 PM
The NFL likes money too. Apparently Michael Sam can sell those jerseys

From the politics forum

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/05/mich...ziel-nfl-draft
05-12-2014 , 12:56 PM
But SM2 is crying all over this thread that nobody stopped to ask him what he would like to see on television before all of this happened. Poor baby
05-12-2014 , 01:09 PM
05-12-2014 , 01:16 PM
Silver_man is a poor caricature of himself at this point.
05-12-2014 , 01:17 PM
Somebody make the above avatar sized please?
05-12-2014 , 01:44 PM
how does this topic get so much attention,

our fellow humans are starving in North Korea(!)
05-12-2014 , 01:46 PM
like the anti Brunei hollywood protesters who actually think its ok to tell other countries how to live. WHAT ABOUT NORTH KOREA(!)
05-12-2014 , 01:48 PM
I was sort of hoping he didnt get drafted when it started getting late so that Sam could pick his own spot post draft, but seeing the homophobes so rustled this morning is really good stuff.
05-12-2014 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by thekid345
like the anti Brunei hollywood protesters who actually think its ok to tell other countries how to live. WHAT ABOUT NORTH KOREA(!)
Who says they are telling Brunei how to live?
05-12-2014 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
Well, I am waiting for a Don Jones Unchained thread from you on how he is a hateful bigot for tweeting "OMG TERRIBLE" after Sam's kiss.

To be fair, you didn't make the Sterling thread until a couple days after the story broke. So you do get a couple days.

I'm ready for a week long media frenzy on Don Jones' comments about how Sam kissing his bf was terrible, and him being a bigot.
they suspended the man simply for saying "Horrible", he could have said that irt a man and a woman kissing. That is downright pathetic.

Last edited by thekid345; 05-12-2014 at 02:04 PM. Reason: Statements like Horrible or OMG TERRIBLE are not grounds to suspend a person irt a viewpoint of two people kissing..
05-12-2014 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by thekid345
how does this topic get so much attention,

our fellow humans are starving in North Korea(!)
This is dumb because we can care about more than one thing at once, but I don't really have a problem with Americans focusing on American problems before others.
05-12-2014 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by thekid345
Oh my God, they suspended the man simply for saying "Horrible", he could have said that irt a man and a woman kissing. That is downright pathetic.
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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
I was sort of hoping he didnt get drafted when it started getting late so that Sam could pick his own spot post draft, but seeing the homophobes so rustled this morning is really good stuff.
05-12-2014 , 02:05 PM
Miami Dolphins defensive back Don Jones has been fined an undisclosed amount by the team following an incident on Saturday where he sent out a tweet critical of Michael Sam. Jones has also been banned from team activities until he undergoes sensitivity training

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...hael-sam-tweet


Sensitivity training? Thats not right.

Don Jones should sue the NFL.
05-12-2014 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
This is dumb because we can care about more than one thing at once, but I don't really have a problem with Americans focusing on American problems before others.
Haven't you heard that North Korea is an atheist nation? The horrors of atheism can not simply be swiped under the rug.
05-12-2014 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by thekid345
Miami Dolphins defensive back Don Jones has been fined an undisclosed amount by the team following an incident on Saturday where he sent out a tweet critical of Michael Sam. Jones has also been banned from team activities until he undergoes sensitivity training

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...hael-sam-tweet


Sensitivity training? Thats not right.

Don Jones should sue the NFL.
05-12-2014 , 02:23 PM
Silver_Man2 only know the names of the quarterbacks

Spoiler:
Because most of them are white.
05-12-2014 , 02:27 PM
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Miami Dolphins defensive back Don Jones has been fined an undisclosed amount by the team
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Don Jones should sue the NFL.
Hmm...

Between this and the Sterling thing people seem to be having real trouble grasping the difference between the consequences a person can face from the government and what they can face from the private organization with whom they've entered into an agreement.
05-12-2014 , 02:32 PM
@forchar, silver

It doesn't mean you're homophobic because you don't like to see two men kissing. I might not think aboriginal women or red heads are attractive for example, but that doesn't make me racist against them. But you know what I would do about that? I would shut the **** up about it. I don't go around voicing my opinion on my particular tastes along racial or other lines because that is offensive.

You know what else I don't do? I don't make a yucky face if I see quadriplegic drool on themselves. I don't don't shout "what the **** are you saying, speak up!" to someone with cerebral palsy. In other words I just respect people and treat people how I would want to be treated.

Be an adult. If you find something distasteful just shut the **** up and look away and don't open your fckn mouth.
05-12-2014 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
There are people who think it's wrong for women to walk around with their faces uncovered. Is the fact that those people exist "good enough for you" that TV should never show women with their faces uncovered? Cmon man this is just obvious facile bull**** based on the fact that you actually sympathise with those people.



But you all but admitted to participating in golden showers a sec ago. What is your response to people who think that is wrong because that's their natural response to it? Maybe "natural response" is a hopeless way to figure out what is right and wrong?
Of course your talking about Conservative Jews and Muslims, and possibly more wrt the text I highlighted. Lets discuss something here, imagine if a nice couple in Iran was watching the NFL draft, how would they react to the kissing of the two men? How would a conservative Jewish couple in Israel react to seeing these two men kiss?

Not to mention homosexuality is illegal in almost 80 countries around the world(some of which are allies of the USA). If we actually look at things from a non religious viewpoint(homosexuality is illegal in North Korea btw), one must simply realize that humans often disagree with each other. Throughout history, sexual relations have varied, there was a time when humans had sex with animals due to the belief that it would increase their abilities in Battle.

So, is showing these two men kissing on national TV the best way to communicate with folks around the world who may disagree with our views?????

I think there is a much better way to go at things when it comes to getting others to accept something. Its a great challenge, but also, its interesting to note how the human race has viewed sexuality over the years.

Last edited by thekid345; 05-12-2014 at 02:45 PM.
05-12-2014 , 02:43 PM
hahahaohwow
05-12-2014 , 02:51 PM
Wow thekid345, that was just total nonsense.
05-12-2014 , 02:57 PM
Kid is a sneaky good troll.

      
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