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What did you think of my speech? What did you think of my speech?

07-21-2013 , 09:55 AM
07-21-2013 , 10:00 AM
You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot, I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. And when you think about why, in the African- American community at least, there’s a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it’s important to recognize that the African- American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that -- that doesn’t go away.

There are very few African-American men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. That includes me.

And there are very few African-American men who haven’t had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me, at least before I was a senator. There are very few African-Americans who haven’t had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often.

And you know, I don’t want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African-American community interprets what happened one night in Florida. And it’s inescapable for people to bring those experiences to bear.

The African-American community is also knowledgeable that there is a history of racial disparities in the application of our criminal laws, everything from the death penalty to enforcement of our drug laws. And that ends up having an impact in terms of how people interpret the case.

Now, this isn’t to say that the African-American community is naive about the fact that African-American young men are disproportionately involved in the criminal justice system, that they are disproportionately both victims and perpetrators of violence. It’s not to make excuses for that fact, although black folks do interpret the reasons for that in a historical context.

We understand that some of the violence that takes place in poor black neighborhoods around the country is born out of a very violent past in this country, and that the poverty and dysfunction that we see in those communities can be traced to a very difficult history.

And so the fact that sometimes that’s unacknowledged adds to the frustration. And the fact that a lot of African-American boys are painted with a broad brush and the excuse is given, well, there are these statistics out there that show that African-American boys are more violent -- using that as an excuse to then see sons treated differently causes pain.

I think the African-American community is also not naive in understanding that statistically somebody like Trayvon Martin was probably statistically more likely to be shot by a peer than he was by somebody else.

So -- so folks understand the challenges that exist for African- American boys, but they get frustrated, I think, if they feel that there’s no context for it or -- and that context is being denied. And -- and that all contributes, I think, to a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, that, from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different.
07-21-2013 , 10:01 AM
We need to spend some time in thinking about how do we bolster and reinforce our African-American boys? And this is something that Michelle and I talk a lot about. There are a lot of kids out there who need help who are getting a lot of negative reinforcement. And is there more that we can do to give them the sense that their country cares about them and values them and is willing to invest in them?

You know, I’m not naive about the prospects of some brand-new federal program. I’m not sure that that’s what we’re talking about here. But I do recognize that as president, I’ve got some convening power.

And there are a lot of good programs that are being done across the country on this front. And for us to be able to gather together business leaders and local elected officials and clergy and celebrities and athletes and figure out how are we doing a better job helping young African-American men feel that they’re a full part of this society and that -- and that they’ve got pathways and avenues to succeed -- you know, I think that would be a pretty good outcome from what was obviously a tragic situation. And we’re going to spend some time working on that and thinking about that.

And then finally, I think it’s going to be important for all of us to do some soul-searching. You know, there have been talk about should we convene a conversation on race. I haven’t seen that be particularly productive when politicians try to organize conversations. They end up being stilted and politicized, and folks are locked into the positions they already have.

On the other hand, in families and churches and workplaces, there’s a possibility that people are a little bit more honest, and at least you ask yourself your own questions about, am I wringing as much bias out of myself as I can; am I judging people, as much as I can, based on not the color of their skin but the content of their character? That would, I think, be an appropriate exercise in the wake of this tragedy.

And let me just leave you with -- with a final thought, that as difficult and challenging as this whole episode has been for a lot of people, I don’t want us to lose sight that things are getting better. Each successive generation seems to be making progress in changing attitudes when it comes to race. I doesn’t mean that we’re in a postracial society. It doesn’t mean that racism is eliminated. But you know, when I talk to Malia and Sasha and I listen to their friends and I see them interact, they’re better than we are. They’re better than we were on these issues. And that’s true in every community that I’ve visited all across the country.

And so, you know, we have to be vigilant and we have to work on these issues, and those of us in authority should be doing everything we can to encourage the better angels of our nature as opposed to using these episodes to heighten divisions. But we should also have confidence that kids these days I think have more sense than we did back then, and certainly more than our parents did or our grandparents did, and that along this long, difficult journey, you know, we’re becoming a more perfect union -- not a perfect union, but a more perfect union.
07-21-2013 , 01:27 PM
I really like that speech even tho i only saw 30 seconds of it
07-21-2013 , 01:42 PM
I like it.

Amazing how saying stuff like "talk about it, think about it, search your feelings about it" gets folks mad. Telling.
07-21-2013 , 04:06 PM
You are a huge nerdlinger there is no way you ground and pound some random guy.
07-21-2013 , 04:09 PM
Very nice gimmick, 2.5/10 for effort.
07-21-2013 , 04:41 PM
am I judging people, as much as I can, based on not the color of their skin but the content of their character?
07-21-2013 , 04:41 PM
we’re becoming a more perfect union -- not a perfect union, but a more perfect union.
07-21-2013 , 04:42 PM
There are very few African-American men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. That includes me.
07-21-2013 , 04:50 PM
terrible execution with this gimmick 1.5/10
07-21-2013 , 05:13 PM
good speech, awful gimmick
07-21-2013 , 05:19 PM
07-21-2013 , 05:24 PM
Uno or zynga? I can't remember which was trying to call Obama a racist

Last edited by Low Key; 07-21-2013 at 05:24 PM. Reason: Kedu maybe?
07-21-2013 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
Uno or zynga? I can't remember which was trying to call Obama a racist
The clue is in the Hussein imo, probably a registered Republican, or at least gets their daily news from Fox/Alex Jones/Glenn Beck/Drudge Report.
07-21-2013 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
there are very few African-American men who haven’t had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me
07-21-2013 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeedz
The clue is in the Hussein imo, probably a registered Republican, or at least gets their daily news from Fox/Alex Jones/Glenn Beck/Drudge Report.
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

'Barack Obama' was taken. Would you think I was a Democrat if I chose 'Walker Bush'?
07-21-2013 , 05:30 PM
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The clue is in the Hussein imo
I concur, that's why I think it's one of them, due to a recent interaction wherein the middle name came up
07-21-2013 , 06:21 PM
Low Key,

u mad bro?

Kind regards,

Hussein Obama
07-21-2013 , 06:24 PM
Gotta go with Hussein on this one U mad, bro.
07-21-2013 , 06:26 PM
He got Trayvon'ed by the mods.
07-21-2013 , 06:35 PM
self defence tho
07-21-2013 , 10:00 PM
Who waaaaaaas it?!?! Was I riiiiiiiight??? You don't have to say which one if I was right.

Or a pm works.
07-21-2013 , 10:22 PM
Obv nick van exel.
07-23-2013 , 06:02 AM
I like the speech

      
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