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View Poll Results: Who was responsible for 9/11
Al Qaeda acting alone
167 34.65%
Al Qaeda with the help of Iran
30 6.22%
Saudi Arabia
20 4.15%
Israel
34 7.05%
The USA
128 26.56%
The Gingerbread man
70 14.52%
Other
33 6.85%

02-01-2016 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken

These are simple, straightforward, unloaded questions aimed at clarification. I don't see how they imply some "big meaningful point". Do you find that if you answer these questions you would be necessarily making a big point? I didn't know they were that penetrating of questions.
What about the rest of your big long post?
02-02-2016 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
the EU... you undoubtedly knew exactly what I meant, but an opportunity for a troll to troll couldn't be passed up.

British people favour leaving the European Union, according to poll
Gambool said "break up of the Euro" and you said "When's that referendum for the UK to dump the Euro?". The Euro is not the EU. I knew what you meant but you obviously didnt.

You should learn to distinguish between when people are correcting you and when they are trolling you, because both must happen a lot.
02-06-2016 , 08:06 PM
Why would the Gingerbread man go to such great lengths to have the twin towers brought down?
02-15-2016 , 05:36 PM
what are Trump fans to do now that he's openly admitted Bush did nothing to keep us safe despite countless warnings throughout the spring and summer of 2001?

The "bomb 'em all" whackjob sect's darling candidate committed blasphemy on Saturday night. He challenged the coincidence narrative which led to all the chaos we're seeing today throughout the region.

Does the boo chorus he endured make him spike or plummet in the polls?
02-15-2016 , 05:54 PM
Ugh, Trump really let us down there. I don't even know if I'm going to vote for him now.
02-15-2016 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
Does the boo chorus he endured make him spike or plummet in the polls?
I doubt it has much immediate effect, just like the whistling and and howling cheer Jeb! has been receiving at the same events for making his standard talking points. Trump is probably correct in labeling those boos as the choreographed reactions of the republican donor class who favor Jeb.

As far Trump's blaming Bush for 9/11...first point is the more fascist you are, and sophisticatedly so, the more you are going to fully represent the official story and vilify those who criticize it. A lot of guilt ridden, passive/closet fascists in the democrat party are going to shriek the loudest, like we see here. Still, a lot of democrats will entertain the idea that Bush was responsible as in he was inept, but not a criminal. The rubicon crossing point is much closer to the official story when dealing with republican groups. So, to a typical democrat, all you have to do is point out that Bush willfully ignored warnings before they call you insane. But to repubs, if you even say there was anything Bush could have practically done then you are insane.

Trump's base is less sophisticated and I don't they will care as much. They don't share his views on 9/11 but they are not as heavily invested in the narrative as the aforementioned donor class with their financial interests. Trump's position on 9/11 will certainly have long term consequences, however, as it severely decreases the prospects for a rapprochement with the party and will refocus the establishment determination to bring him down. Trump's xenophobic domestic policy, while anti-Muslim, is not a stand-in for the aggressive, racist, neocolonialist, corporate welfare laden ME policy advanced by both arms of the establishment (the two parties, for those not paying attention). Breaking with the official 9/11 narrative signals a breaking with that policy.
02-15-2016 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Ugh, Trump really let us down there. I don't even know if I'm going to vote for him now.
I was devastated. How can I be true to myself and vote for a man who just flung so much mud at my hero. If he takes a run at Cheney, I might have to just kill myself.
02-15-2016 , 11:44 PM
Yea yea...back to who did 9/11 thanks
02-22-2016 , 01:40 AM
03-07-2016 , 02:09 PM
So I just found out that Trump has promised to come clean with the truth behind 9/11 if he is elected president. Is that tempting enough to get some of you nutbags to vote for him?

Apparently he thinks it was the Saudis which was the last place pick itt. Would be quite something if he is right.
03-07-2016 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TrollyWantACracker
So I just found out that Trump has promised to come clean with the truth behind 9/11 if he is elected president. Is that tempting enough to get some of you nutbags to vote for him?

Apparently he thinks it was the Saudis which was the last place pick itt. Would be quite something if he is right.
As if jiggs wasn't voting him to begin with
03-07-2016 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TrollyWantACracker
So I just found out that Trump has promised to come clean with the truth behind 9/11 if he is elected president. Is that tempting enough to get some of you nutbags to vote for him?
It's not like the government is sitting on the whole truth of 9/11. Unless Trump is willing to launch an entire investigation, there isn't much he could do besides release the redacted 28 pages. Maybe he could force a proper disclosure to some FOIA requests but I really doubt Trump is knowledgeable about 9/11 enough to address most significant issues. Nor would he likely prioritize criminal proceedings against those who interfered with the pre 9/11 law enforcement efforts or the initial investigative response. Trump comes off as a casual conspiracy nut who likes to indulge in fantasy infused grumbling, someone who can't make a distinction between nonsense allegations and real crimes.
03-07-2016 , 09:34 PM
low hanging fruit
03-07-2016 , 10:36 PM
Haha, my exact thought.
03-08-2016 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
As if jiggs wasn't voting him to begin with
Do you ever stop getting tired of assuming dead wrong? Clown.

If you haven't yet noticed, dip***t: I'm a pretty consistent progressive on most every topic.

While Drumpf may vow to release the information you coincitards desperately want to remain classified, that doesn't make him any less of a fascist completely unfit for the office.

Regardless, I'm confident Obama will follow through on his promise he gave (twice) to the 9/11 families and make the 28 pages public before his term ends.

The Saudis don't deserve our protections. They're a dying petrol-state desperate to maintain market share and unwilling to be a "swing" producer any longer. They're also a sponsor of global Sunni terror agendas at the highest levels of their government.
03-08-2016 , 11:56 AM
PS you guys need new pole with a "Rosie O'donnall" option.
03-08-2016 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
Do you ever stop getting tired of assuming dead wrong? Clown.

If you haven't yet noticed, dip***t: I'm a pretty consistent progressive on most every topic.

While Drumpf may vow to release the information you coincitards desperately want to remain classified, that doesn't make him any less of a fascist completely unfit for the office.

Regardless, I'm confident Obama will follow through on his promise he gave (twice) to the 9/11 families and make the 28 pages public before his term ends.

The Saudis don't deserve our protections. They're a dying petrol-state desperate to maintain market share and unwilling to be a "swing" producer any longer. They're also a sponsor of global Sunni terror agendas at the highest levels of their government.
Boy, was I dead wrong? Maybe because nobody cares where you stand and I literally wouldn't spend a second researching your idiot views.
03-08-2016 , 12:27 PM
Jiggs being a loud and aggressive Trump supporter doesn't surprise me. It fits with everything I know about him, which is nothing.
03-08-2016 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
I'm confident Obama will follow through on his promise he gave (twice) to the 9/11 families and make the 28 pages public before his term ends.
Confident enough for a friendly 72 hour self-temp-ban ( none of the mods business) wager that Barry From Kenya releases the completely nonredacted 28 pages (not a single word ommited) before he leaves office? Because the cancer runs really really deep in our gubment imho. He no way releases anything but 28 pages of meaningless conjunctions imo.
03-08-2016 , 03:56 PM
Lol Barry from Kenya. Gee... your views are most likely quite credible. I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter
03-08-2016 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Boy, was I dead wrong? Maybe because nobody cares where you stand and I literally wouldn't spend a second researching your idiot views.
LOL!!! classic forum coward.... Conjure up the name of a poster, lie about his position ... then when held accountable for your fraud, go right back to pretending you don't care.

You are pretty much the most useless sack of **** on this forum.
03-08-2016 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
LOL!!! classic forum coward.... Conjure up the name of a poster, lie about his position ... then when held accountable for your fraud, go right back to pretending you don't care.

You are pretty much the most useless sack of **** on this forum.
Hey calm down man, it's not our fault you are a 100% solid Trump mark. I get it, his violently racist tendencies just speak to you. No need to get upset.
03-08-2016 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Hey calm down man, it's not our fault you are a 100% solid Trump mark. I get it, his violently racist tendencies just speak to you. No need to get upset.
It's so bad for you at this point, you have to conjure up an alternative reality that has no basis in fact ... Poor little Bush defender. No where to turn but straw men.
03-08-2016 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
It's so bad for you at this point, you have to conjure up an alternative reality that has no basis in fact ... Poor little Bush defender. No where to turn but straw men.
Claims someone presents alternative reality... immediately presents own alternative reality.

Story checks out.

Classic jiggerman
03-11-2016 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Claims someone presents alternative reality... immediately presents own alternative reality.

Story checks out.

Classic jiggerman
Clever..... however, here's the obvious difference:

I don't spend day after day participating in a thread where I'm attempting - inadvertently or otherwise - to shield Donald Trump from accountability or claim Donald "just messed up."

Fail.

Troll might wanna go back into hiding by pretending he don't care.

Last edited by JiggsCasey; 03-11-2016 at 04:31 AM.

      
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