Well the conspiratards are probably right about one of those...

The huge explosion sound was added in to a video of the people reacting to something else.

Things that sound like explosions are A) not necessarily caused by explosives, B) probably very common in the area at that time (collapsed buildings all over the place so debris scattered around, some VERY large, some falling, settling, things breaking, fires still raging). There is nothing ironic or suspicious about this.

As suspected, I was correct that this video was determined to be fake. Here's a summary with some other discussion about it:

etc.

and for the record, those original versions of the video have been deleted and reuploaded all in mono and re-panned to the center, so hooray for honesty.

At absolute best, the video is in serious doubt and it doesn't matter anyway, because documentary footage shows that this video was shot shortly after the twin towers' collapse and many hours before WTC7's collapse making it completely irrelevant even if it were a legit "explosion" sound (don't forget, loud bangs are not unexpected in collapses and fires).

So, one of the people who voted for "Israel" finally got back to me, ironically enough it was the user "Bageled". I asked why he thought Israel did 9/11,


"I had to pick one and just watched a conspiracy documentary where 5 Mossad Agents were arrested and the released by NYPD."

I guess that's enough to convince some people

I heard some ... um... Vietnamese agents were arrested and released by NYPD, I think i'll make a "conspiracy documentary" about it.

Cool story.

What is it about thermite theory that you DO care about then?

It's so easy to prove it wrong and show how ridiculous the people that believe it are.

The LIHOP theories are much harder to prove one way or another. It's not basic physics but human actions that may or may not have happened. It's doubtful we'll ever know all of the details of who knew/did what.

actually, in terms of actual litigation, they're much, much easier to prove... because they rely on simple, separate interrogations checked against each other and against the public record; i.e. direct evidence in court. ... All that's lacking is bravery (will power to just see it through) by some independent team.

"I was at O'Blarney's Pub until 2 a.m." This statement can be checked quickly. If the check falsifies it, everyone can understand its significance.

As we've seen with climate change (and 9/11 controlled demolition theory), science can be effectively muddied by those with an alternate agenda. Look at pollution liability cases, where there's a vast history of deep-pocketed defendants bringing in "experts" who prostitute themselves for generous fees. It numbs the effect on a jury's mind.

Fingerprints are one thing. It's something else to analyze the temperature at which steel is sufficiently weakened and determining whether or not an unproven amount of burning jet fuel, in unspecified concentrations and unknown locations could have compromised steel supports. Besides, the physical evidence is long gone. That ship has sailed (no pun intended).

If, hypothetically, Phil's wife really did hire a hit man to kill him, there should be some record connecting the flow of money from her to the killer. Finding a connection strengthens the working model. Not finding one either doesn't help or weakens it. In the case of 9/11, hundreds of articles and investigations strengthen the connection.

Wait, are you really claiming that LIHOP is easier to prove than that the buildings didn't fall from controlled demolitions?

Jiggs, what world do you live in?

Jesus... you really are stuck on stupid, aren't you?

Read it again, or don't and maintain whatever gorilla logic you prefer.

LMAO you watch WAY too much Law and Order dude.

Jiggs, never change.

In other words: "Oh, I read that totally wrong...my fault for suggesting you're comparing a positive with a negative... I'll pretend it's still on you, though, when my reading comprehension fails me."

Horrible.

Yeah, that must be it, huh troll with mod buttons?

I guess you don't have the courage to answer my rather simple question. You're not sure why you "care" about thermite theory.

I trolled you just as much before I was a mod. JJ nailed it.

He nailed getting it 100% backwards... But it's satisfying knowing you both are loosely admitting its "harder" to prove the official "oops, we were just caught off guard" storyline holds any water.

"It's harder, so I pretend I don't care." Noted.

Troll.

Whatever, I don't care.

Jiggs, you realize that it's not that we don't understand you, right? It's that you live in your own little world and there's no point engaging you because you'll always be right in your own little world and you'll probably never leave your world and enter reality.

So, yes. Your post was silly.

I could apply the same for your little world. ... But it's not just "my world," fascism apologist. It's the reality, as spelled out by U.S. lawmakers, and against which your final rallying point is feigned ignorance and feigned apathy.

That you're too lazy and devoted to stress-reducing fraud doesn't change the facts that U.S. allies funded the attacks, U.S. intelligence knew about the attackers, and U.S. leaders obstructed justice re: the attacks. Walking you through that evidence has left you pretty impotent, to the point that you're punting to this above.

Your little world isn't about LIHOP. It's about how you view the world and throw out facts that don't conform to your core beliefs.

Jesus... Wtf is that even supposed to mean, asshat? ... Give an example of what you're trying to say here, or we can accept that you're just hoping your Will Farrell approach to this discussion wins the day for you.

What facts have I presented that "don't conform to my core beliefs?" This should be amusing. ... But then, you'll probably remain cryptic and punt. It's what you do.

None, that's the point.

But assuming that's just a typo - do you really not know? Your religion is the religion of PEAK OIL and everything is viewed through that lens. The fact that you can't even give us something that could happen that would cause you to doubt your belief in PEAK OIL is how we know its a religion and not based in reality.

Anyway, proving MIHOPers wrong because of their flawed physics is >>>>> much easier than proving LIHOP right/wrong. That's obvious to just about everybody that's not you.

According to an in-depth study by NIST, the fire in building 7 put excessive lateral pressure on the support structure of one of the floors causing it to buckle and fall triggering a cascade which resulted in the building's collapse.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...a3524/4278874/

Wow... OK, dude. Makes no sense at all. ... But somehow mine is the typo, not yours.

Well, that's not a fact, considering I have given many things that could happen that could falsify peak oil - including finding 3 or 4 new Saudi Arabias of easy-to-extract light crude at >31 API. They're just not having any luck. But speaking of reality, you're a ****ing idiot who can't seem to flesh out what you're ever trying to say. Mainly because you're a fairly horrible writer, and you're not very confident in your understanding of the subject matter.

LOL!!! ... Actually, that's been my entire point the whole time, dip****. You guys focus 100% of your energy on what's easy. What's not easy is defending against LIHOP, so none of you bother and instead pretend you don't care.

Are you following this discussion lucidly? Or are you just that dumb? Read it again from the beginning. Slower this time.

Ok...


And yet...

lol Jiggs?