Oh yea because a tin can has the support that a steel tower does. Nice comparison there, why don't u try and shoot a bullet at a steel target and see what happens.

And what about the 'nose out' footage that was aired on tv on the day? Are u going to tell me that it's possible for a plane to fly through 1 of the trade centres and come out of the other side with the nose still in tact?

Geez, Kerowo, don't you know physics, and haven't you ever swung a wrecking ball at a building? Everything just bounces off. That's how conservation of momentum works. Doesn't matter whether it's a rubber ball thrown at a brick wall or an archer's arrow at a hay bale or a bullet at an apple, they're all just bouncing off.

bizarrely beautiful

The momentum of a bullet from a Winchester .308 is 8.4 kg-m / s, which is, less then a 10th of the momentum I have when walking down the street. The momentum of a fully loaded 767-200ER at cruising speed is over 42 million kg-m / s.

If it were to happen, parts would go flying through the windows, and parts would bounce back and fall to the ground after hitting the frame of the building. What wouldn't happen, is what u see in them gifs I provided.

And u obv have no explanation re the 'nose out' images. I mean, only an idiot would argue that is possible, so why is it that this is what was shown on the news that day?

Only an idiot would argue that it's impossible for the nose of a plane to fly through a hollow building.

Jiggs seems unhappy that there's a crazier crazy stealing his attention.

Shane G was 2 orders of magnitudes off about how far out in space satellites were. He gives zero ****s about facts, either an attention troll or mentally ill.

Sound logic u have there, that's probably why they tried to get rid of it and showed videos from diff angles where u couldn't see in between the towers. But fox forgot to remove their f up from the archives.



No point in me continuing to argue with u lot, it was fun while it lasted, but there's only so much ****** bashing I can do before it starts to get boring.

To an outsider who reads this forum and was sitting on the fence re this topic, i'm sure they now wonder why u all resort to calling me mentally ill when all I do is provide uncomfortable facts. I must look pretty good posting along side u droolers.

No one is on the fence about whether the planes were real. There are the 99.99% of people who understand they were and the .01% of people where some synapses arent firing quite correctly.

Oh no, quite the contrary. Your camp's obsession with focusing on others' bad arguments only reinforces the reality that you can't deal with the irrefutable one. Keep at it. Every post you waste arguing curious physics with Shane is a statement about you. No one else.

Jiggs, What do you want us to say? I have no clue why "no one was fired" because of 911.
I don't think just because no one was fired that must mean a conspiracy.

Maybe a conspiracy to cover their asses for ****ing up.

When you make an irrefutable argument rather than repeatedly crying wolf I'll be happy to address it.

I've made several. And the only thing you've been "happy" to do is troll and bail. It's all you know.

Jiggs, u say the same thing all the time, blah blah they let it happen. U don't even realize that u have been taken down the garden path by whichever controlled opposition disinfo it is that u read.

The reason these ppl argue with me in such a venomous manner, is because against me they are facing someone that shows them the truth, something they rarely experience irl because they are so used to staring at the tele and being programmed to live out a false reality, wheras against u, they are facing some lame ass mouth piece that fronts for the controlled opposition camp.

“The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie. "One word of truth outweighs the world.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

“If an offense come out of the truth, better is it that the offense come than that the truth be concealed.”
― Thomas Hardy, Tess of the d'Urbervilles

“But I suppose the most revolutionary act one can engage in is... to tell the truth.”
― Howard Zinn, Marx in Soho: A Play on History

“It's not about going around trying to stir up trouble. As long as you're honest and you articulate what you believe to be true, somebody somewhere will become your enemy whether you like it or not.”
― Criss Jami

“At first, they'll only dislike what you say, but the more correct you start sounding the more they'll dislike you.”
― Criss Jami

“In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual.”
― Galileo Galilei

“In a room where
people unanimously maintain
a conspiracy of silence,
one word of truth
sounds like a pistol shot.”
― Czesław Miłosz

“An unbelieved truth can hurt a man much more than a lie. It takes great courage to back truth unacceptable to our times. There's a punishment for it, and it's usually crucifixion.”
― John Steinbeck, East of Eden

“If we are not ashamed to think it, we should not be ashamed to say it.”
― Cicero

“Integrity is telling myself the truth. And honesty is telling the truth to other people.”
― Spencer Johnson

“Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world...would do this, it would change the earth.”
― William Faulkner

And here we have the closest thing to conceding malfeasance as I suspect we'll get.

So then, the obvious question is: If you're willing to concede they f***ed up, are you willing to give them a free pass with no accountability? To keep them on the job to f*** up again? To let history stand so that the same "mistakes" happen again?

In any event, they more than f***ed up. They obstructed justice. And I think you know it.

ShaneG, our modern day Galileo.

The guy who did the CGI effects should have been fired. All that money and power at their disposal and they couldn't make a decent action movie explosion?

You would need access to a lot of info(That may not ever be de-classfied) to prove any direct "malfeasance" of anyone in the Bush Admin......
that is "if" there was any "malfeasance" going on.

directly involved or ****ed up and didn't take the threats seriously?
I lean towards didn't take threats seriously.

If they concede they ****ed up, I would not give them a free pass.
No
again, no


If there is a conspiracy, it was that the Bush Admin. ****ed up on the job and covered their ass in the commission report....Not the no planes, unicorns, we controlled the terrorists, jews, or flying kitties from mars.

Two things:
1) link your work
2) I will not make the same mistake they do by engaging with you.

They have conceded they f***ed up. That's the whole point. Their entire conclusion was "well, we were paralyzed by inefficiency... but no one knew ahead of time."

Have you not read the Kean Report either?

Regardless, of course they knew ahead of time. They had plastic models on the exact same scenario, in fact. So not only did they "**** up," they lied about what they knew.

Yes, I read the report. I think I still have a print copy in my library.

What is your theory again? (Serious Question)

Does it have anything to do with petrol dollars? (Funny Jab)

That they (most of the PNAC signatories and Joint Chiefs) knew the attacks were coming and let them happen - even obstructed potential apprehension - in order to create a pretext for greater Middle Eastern presence, with the full support of the easily duped Congress and nationalist U.S. public.

Yes. Most everything.

Do not listen to this, if you dont want to be reminded:

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/01/07...at-went-wrong/