The fact we have a large amount of people that regard Marxist ideology as virtue instead of a terror is a perfect example of a lack of historical literacy in the general populace and our education system.

It's equivalent to Nazi's being regarded as ok. In fact, Marxist ideology has killed far more people and created more suffering than Nazism ever did. Both should be treated equally.

Haidt could have made that argument, but didn't. I think it's a terrible argument, by the way. The letter clearly states that any disparity in discipline between the races will only be PART of an investigation and that a disparity is not necessarily evidence of discrimination.If Haidt thinks otherwise, he has a duty to make that argument and not say that the Obama administration said for schools to "eliminate the discrepancy" when they did no such thing.

I have no problem with school systems eliminating disparity in discipline if they feel that is the best way to handle the situation.

This is a bit confusing because the letter in question states explicitly that schools must use the preponderance of evidence standard:

So this wasn't really a veiled order at all. And it also seems like a sensible policy to me. Moreover, the goal of eliminating the disparity was not even a "suggestion" in the letter that Haidt referenced.

I made a gif of the slippery slope fallacy and how it works. I have been called all of these things, even though I am only one of these things.

If only you spent as much time attacking the *******s on the slope as you did the SJW who do.

The Anti-SJWs you've cited have been rape apologists, so I'm not sure if that's where they belong on the slope.

When enemies can be determined by mention, how many mentions of SJWs does it take to make an SJW an enemy? The stereotype of random free individual fools into a stereotype of SJW reached peak weird IMO. SJWS are bad is like the new taxation is theft. Some are immature and some arent even SJW. Like the scope of the people connected with social justice movements seems missed by some sjw critics, but not all.
No wonder it's like Fredrick Douglass's ghost was here.

This is why the anti-SJWs must come together. United we will defeat them.

Stumbled upon a good definition:

The SJWs feel the world is out to get them so they feel they must fight. However, what they are really fighting for is their place in history. They are fighting on behalf of their ego. It's not about the issues, it's about being on the right side of the issue. Unfortunately, this motivation is derived from the outside world. They have been told what to think and whom to hate. They are at the mercy of circumstance. This is why they are so miserable. They have no perceived control of their lives. They are like wild animals who instinctively believes they are under attack. There is no rational thought. This is why they fail in life.

Here's a post that I think you'd agree with mongidig:

So Trump and Farage are SJWs now?

Just mirror images of them.

So the definition of SJW isn't anyone who bugged you by being self-righteous?

Excellent post!

These folks lack self awareness. They don't understand the concepts of packaging, marketing, and language. This is why they fail over and over again. They are the crying child who was given candy in an attempt to shut them up. These spoiled brats continue to act like children. Sometimes they get their way(candy) but in the long run they are always doomed to fail.

How can you take a person(Michael Moore?)as depicted in your video seriously?

I bet these people have significantly greater health issues from their self inflicted stress.

Is it really going to turn out that SJW are just people who care more about racists, bigots and misogynists than Lord does?

That would be a more consistent standard.

This is probably a goof, but it's pretty clear that the alt-right, or at least some substantial part of it (Milo fans, gamergate), have already organized in resistance.

I'm not sure how necessary that really is, and it's probably counterproductive since the alt-right has that ugly creamy white supremacist center. So, such trollish resistance gives the "SJWs" more motivation, and even proves their point to a degree how racist, misogynist, etc, the world around us is... even if they're now only fighting a monster they have summoned.

So if the alt-right nasty anti-SJW's were to step back and stand down, I think a few things would happen naturally:

1) There would be fewer things for the overly sensitive and easily trolled to organize around.

2) As people get used to social media and it's ability to amplify even the most radical messages by catering to the loudest and bitchiest (and most trollish) of us, people will adjust to this and stop responding so quickly.

I pointed this out to Shamey in another thread. A letter to your congressman used to represent 100 or 1000 constituents -- I forget how the saying went. Now a twitter mob of maybe a couple hundred really only represents a couple hundred (often loud aholes ), and maybe even less if people are multi-accounting. It's not the "will of the people." The overreaction to them has driven much of the media narrative and the current animosity toward "SJW's", helping widen the political divide. People wouldn't care as much if everyone didn't jump at their every last silly gripe... and this is beginning to happen (See Ellen's response to her ridiculous twitter storm. She did not apologize or take down her funny photoshop).

3) Politically, staying on the side of liberal ideals always wins in the end. It just does. Illiberal censorship and it's ugly cousin public shaming is a failed strategy overall. Just ask the Church.

This is pretty much the same advice I try to give to the "SJW" crowd as well, and neither side will take it until they're convinced what they're doing is counterproductive and simply dividing society further and further. There are a lot of other things I'm leaving out and don't understand (not that this post should be considered a well-formed thesis either), like social media's role is more than just twitter mobs, and it may have a much larger effect than anyone can quantify so far. The fake news phenomenon and how it flourishes in bubbles comes to mind.

I hope smart scholars like Jonathan Haidt (and you) will continue to do research into what is going on on the ground, and I hope some of the smart social justice advocate scholars like Well Named (and OriP?) will also take these types of arguments into consideration and adjust if necessary. I think you and I both would like to see real progress continue to be made on racism and bigotry throughout the world, even if the "SJWs" think we're the enemy.

Shallow character lacks the depth found in true deep character. Like the difference between plain mockery and great satire.

Wow. He predicted SJWs.

SJWs are wrapped in flags and holding bibles? Perhaps some, a diverse group.

Nah, they just care a lot about minorities.

lol

Their your enemy to know or not know or think you know, or whatever.

I guess when people point out he never said that you're going to claim some 12 dimensional chess bluff that you knew this and preempted the response?

Internet memes aren't always accurate.

The statement itself, whether Churchill actually said it or not, is pretty accurate nonetheless.