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Old 06-07-2017, 01:47 PM   #6126
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I love posts like these. I mean, I tell you what I'd do and your response is "no you wouldn't".

Lol, if I knew my child would be at a disadvantage I wouldn't bother. I've evrn supported this argument by giving examples in countries where the same behavior happens, and your response is still the same.

Yes, I'm being honest, if she would be paid 77 cents on the dollar I wouldn't bother. Who cares, I would worry more about marrying her off or starting a business for her so she can make a living.

What I wouldn't do is place her in a game where she can't win. Only a fool would do that. You maximize the choices you have for success, in almost all cases.
Lol, for ****'s sake you ****ing moron I took you at face value and explained why what you said you would do makes no sense.

It was the other dude who said you were exaggerating and like, yeah, even I didn't realize you meant you would literally pull her out of school today (that's even more insane) but like, I already laid out why your plan makes no sense.
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:53 PM   #6127
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Lol, for ****'s sake you ****ing moron I took you at face value and explained why what you said you would do makes no sense.

It was the other dude who said you were exaggerating and like, yeah, even I didn't realize you meant you would literally pull her out of school today (that's even more insane) but like, I already laid out why your plan makes no sense.
Whatever. You speak idiocy. Maybe you just like to insert yourself into conversations for no reason.
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:59 PM   #6128
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goof, I am not saying I agree w/ bigwilliestlye, but here is a possible argument: The dollar amount difference between the income for say a HS education and a bachelors degree for a man vs. a woman is significant. Using tiltdonk's numbers (below) it looks like a woman could make an extra $20k more per year going from a HS edu. to a bachelors degree where a man would make $26k more. That 30% increase is significant.

If Wil is looking at the situation as if he is making an investment he could be thinking he could make a $100k investment (an estimate for the 4 yr college that his child picked). With a son he could make that investment & it would take 3 yrs & 10 months to have the theoretically investment pay for itself where a daughter would take 30% longer to pay off the theoretical investment off.

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Your statement is essentially "if I knew my daughter would be disadvantaged by society (to the tune of receiving 77% of fair compensation for whatever she did) I would give up on her development entirely"

This makes no sense because, even if she would be paid unfairly, she would be better off educated rather than uneducated. According to bls.gov, the median earnings for men working full time by education level are approximately:
<High School = $27k
High School = $39k
Some college = $45k
Bachelor's = $65k
Advanced = $85k

So, let's assume for the sake of argument that the figures for a woman would be 77% of that, i.e.
<High School = $21k
High School = $30k
Some college = $35k
Bachelor's = $50k
Advanced = $65k

As you may know, $65k > $21k, thus it doesn't seem logical to stop your daughter's education in this case.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:12 PM   #6129
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Because it would be a waste of resources if they couldn't become what they wanted and treated fairly.
Your whole shtick across the entire forum, though, has always been "**** the haters, 'the white man'" (or in this case, perhaps just "the man") "can't stop me from doing me and being successful". You dismiss the existence of institutional obstacles, to the extent they exist, as being something people just have to work to rise above.

But in this situation, your rhetoric changes entirely.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:15 PM   #6130
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Your whole shtick across the entire forum, though, has always been "**** the haters, 'the white man'" (or in this case, perhaps just "the man") "can't stop me from doing me and being successful". You dismiss the existence of institutional obstacles, to the extent they exist, as being something people just have to work to rise above.

But in this situation, your rhetoric changes entirely.
I don't understand what you don't understand. In America nothing stops you from being what you want to be. If it did, we as people would react accordingly, which would be completely logical.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:23 PM   #6131
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In America nothing stops you from being what you want to be.
Jesus, you sound like a liberal with this "if you follow your dreams you can do anything you want" ****. Isn't that how we got a generation of unemployed philosophy majors? That's what the conservatives are always telling me.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:24 PM   #6132
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Whatever. You speak idiocy. Maybe you just like to insert yourself into conversations for no reason.
Lol @ you, posting your idiocy, getting dunked on, getting mad, and then crying that I "inserted myself into your conversation".

Next time use some logic in your post and it won't happen.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:26 PM   #6133
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Basically the gist is that wil doesn't understand the difference between:

E[x] < E[y]

and

P(x < y) = 1
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:31 PM   #6134
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goof, I am not saying I agree w/ bigwilliestlye, but here is a possible argument: The dollar amount difference between the income for say a HS education and a bachelors degree for a man vs. a woman is significant. Using tiltdonk's numbers (below) it looks like a woman could make an extra $20k more per year going from a HS edu. to a bachelors degree where a man would make $26k more. That 30% increase is significant.

If Wil is looking at the situation as if he is making an investment he could be thinking he could make a $100k investment (an estimate for the 4 yr college that his child picked). With a son he could make that investment & it would take 3 yrs & 10 months to have the theoretically investment pay for itself where a daughter would take 30% longer to pay off the theoretical investment off.
This is more addressing TiltedDonkey's posts than mine, but yeah, that's reasonable. It's not clear wil understands this, though, because like TD has been saying, wil's still been comparing daughter's earnings vs. man's earnings when he should be comparing (as you are doing here) daughter's uneducated earnings vs. daughter's educated earnings.

Sure is a strange day in P7 when mickey (first on Eric Trump's "Democrats aren't people" comments which LDO wil wholeheartedly agrees with, now here) is making much stronger posts than wil.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:07 PM   #6135
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Jesus, you sound like a liberal with this "if you follow your dreams you can do anything you want" ****. Isn't that how we got a generation of unemployed philosophy majors? That's what the conservatives are always telling me.
I've never said anything like that. In fact, I discourage that stupid ass saying. Following your dreams is idiotic in my book. It's much better to do what you are good at.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:08 PM   #6136
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Lol @ you, posting your idiocy, getting dunked on, getting mad, and then crying that I "inserted myself into your conversation".

Next time use some logic in your post and it won't happen.
I'm not mad and no one dunks on me. Believe whatever you wish, though.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:18 PM   #6137
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No, Marixists have always been Marxists. The party of slavery, turned into the party of segregation, turned into the party of identity politics, and plantation owners have simply become the mayors of large cities. Nothing new here.
Comparing mayors to slave owners is ****ing ridiculous and trivializes slavery.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:20 PM   #6138
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This is more addressing TiltedDonkey's posts than mine, but yeah, that's reasonable. It's not clear wil understands this, though, because like TD has been saying, wil's still been comparing daughter's earnings vs. man's earnings when he should be comparing (as you are doing here) daughter's uneducated earnings vs. daughter's educated earnings.
I guess we just don't understand each other. If I believed she would be paid less I wouldn't be putting so much of my resources in her education, I would just send her to a school that doesn't cost me anything and be done with it and hope for the best. I wouldn't tie her up in the basement and not let her learn how to read.

Jesus. Whats so hard to understand about this? You don't put your resources into things where you won't get back max potential. In India there are a lot more women in IT compared to America. It makes perfect sense.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:22 PM   #6139
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Weakness had nothing to do with it. The left found a new weapon that the right hand no answer to.

The combination of social media, virtue signalling and public shaming all converged into calling someone a racist or a sexist or a bigot into the end of their lives. People became very cognizant of this fact. If you are called a racist, you risk losing everything. You can lose your job, your kids, your family, your ability to support yourself, your friends. It happened many times publicly and changed people's behavior.

It is actually dangerous for you profoessionally and socially to be labelled a racist. Virtue signalling made the issue worse because leftists thrive by denouncing people so they can make themselves look good. Like a sick Munchausen by proxy.

The left gained the upper hand and the right sat there and took it because they had no way to fight back. What the right should do is start calling the left communists or socialists, but that's not up to me.

We'll see how it all shakes out.
Sounds like the right failed to check itself and needs scapegoats.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:27 PM   #6140
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Sounds like the right failed to check itself and needs scapegoats.
Not at all. They just haven't figured out how to fight it.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:39 PM   #6141
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You sonsofbitches play too coy.

The correct answer is wil's daughter needs all the education she can get so she doesn't turn out like him.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:40 PM   #6142
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Also, is it possible to know negative things?
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:44 PM   #6143
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Comparing mayors to slave owners is ****ing ridiculous and trivializes slavery.
Your virtue, it has been signaled.

You do know slavery is still practiced in parts of the world to this day, yes?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_slavery
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:46 PM   #6144
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Basically the gist is that wil doesn't understand the difference between:

E[x] < E[y]

and

P(x < y) = 1
Whoa, whoa, whoa we're still working on 'x if y' up in here.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:55 PM   #6145
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Real talk though I'm kinda disgusted and horrified behind how wil views his daughter. I mean God mother****ing forbid she grows up to show an interest in music or art. That poor child.

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Old 06-07-2017, 03:56 PM   #6146
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Your virtue, it has been signaled.
As has your racism.

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You do know slavery is still practiced in parts of the world to this day, yes?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_slavery
What does this have to do with mayors?
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Old 06-07-2017, 04:01 PM   #6147
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As has your racism.
This word, it doesn't mean what you think it means. Also, it's not an effective rebuttal to anything.

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What does this have to do with mayors?
It has to do with your comment about "trivialization". Pointing out that since race hucksters can no longer legally "own" people, they've turned to political power and enacted social programs to keep non-whites in poverty has a lot to do with Mayors of large, impoverished cities.

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Old 06-07-2017, 04:03 PM   #6148
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Well that's pure ****ing gibberish.

I mean, that derposphere talking point is dumb as dirt BEFORE the telephone game so now look at it.
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Old 06-07-2017, 04:04 PM   #6149
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Not at all. They just haven't figured out how to fight it.
Yeah, but also looks that way too. Your assessment, if we replaced "left" and "right" with "Travolta" and "Cage", isn't it like the plot to the movie Face/Off?
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Old 06-07-2017, 04:05 PM   #6150
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I liked the part where slave-owners were apparently Marxists. Who knew?
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