Fair enough. I definitely agree that politicians should be able to use humor. But I do think some elected (and unelected) offices carry with them duties for how you are supposed to act in public, and when these office-holders don't abide by those duties they are shirking their responsibilities. I think it plausible that these duties could prohibit them from making some kinds of jokes, even if meant innocently.

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I never said that.

"There is a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot".

"Is that like saying "all quotes matter"?"

This is the 2nd time that dumb mother****er told that dumb mother****ing anecdote.

The new study only used surnames an indicator of race. But how many HR people are going to know that people with the surname Washington are 90% black?

But for anyone still not sure racism is still a problem:

Black children with acute appendicitis -- a clearly painful emergency -- are less likely than white children to get painkillers in the emergency room

or

Therapists often discriminate against black and poor patients, study finds

Well, that could just be class, right...

But I'm sure somebody here who has never read,--let alone published--a study in his whole goddam life is going to come along and tell us how flawed all this research is.

Deleted 5 in a row 5ive posts.

5ive that was a mixture. Some of your concerns should lead to post reports or discussion in the moderation thread but please don't hijack the content thread that way.

Well right, they must be flawed. Ya see, we know racism is dead. So the studies must be wrong.

And i really dont see any point to even doing studies. That just gives them a reason to be lazy and fail.

It's amazing that I have to explain simple, easy to understand concepts to people. Race has nothing to do with any of the above. It's cultural or class bias. The pain medication article even states that it may be due to black children being less likely to say they are in pain!

You people look at everything through the lens of race. Unfortunately, culture is tied to race, so you only see it as racism. It's REALLY dumb.

For example, my parents are not culturally assimilated at all to american society. They struggled both financially and socially. Their children thrived both financially and socially. Does that mean people were racist against my parents but somehow gave me and my siblings a pass?

It's absolutely shocking to me I have to explain this.

The therapist study explicitly accounts for class. You are in racist denial.

I notice you dropped the pain medication article when I brought up the point of black kids not mentioning they are in pain.

Your above point is easily addrsssed. Read it :

"The scripts varied the names, vocabulary and grammar to reflect race and class differences. For example, the name Amy Roberts was supposed to indicate that the caller was a white middle-class woman, whereas Latoya Johnson was used for a black middle-class woman. The scripts for working-class individuals used more slang and some grammatical errors."

I specifically mentioned people may indeed be biased towards class. You can take race out of it. It doesn't take much thought to understand why a highly educated individual may be biased more towards other educated individuals. Who do you relate more to, Eminem or Neil degrasse Tyson? I'm sure many people will say Eminem due to lolwil but we know the answer.

Your arguments are awful, and you know it. Lol @ purposefully using gramatical errors and slang and not expecting a change in response from arguably the most educated people in the world.

3 more posts deleted. Please stick to posting about the content.


Wil, this is making as issue out of the person posting rather than the content of the argument. Deletion is more likely in future and please don't post this way in content threads

I'm highly perceptive, what can I say.

You're highly clueless.

2018 it is, then. Bring it. I think you guys are going to get your asses kicked again. But we'll see.

http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/rel...p-a0035663.pdf

Read it again. The study had black and white individuals in the working class category and black and white individuals in the middle-class category. THERE WAS STILL BIAS IN THE MIDDLE-CLASS CATEGORYY:

I think you missed the point.

lol @ this.

What? You're highly clueless no matter what happens in the elections. What in the goddamn hell are you blathering about.

There's a difference between "embracing victimhood" and denying empirical evidence of race-based discrimination. And since the vast majority of minorities who are successful do not deny this evidence, the idea that denying the evidence might be the key to success is nonsense.

There must be a full moon because wil is Korean again.

So you notice that is bragging, which has never really amounted to much in the long run. Even losers can brag.

As someone who as studied the qualities of perception and perspective, I'm just calling it like I see it.

I like the arts of bragging, as a person who practices formal and informal arts of bragging, one may even call me a perceptive critic of bragging. AKA a bragger who doesn't need to brag, but can.