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03-21-2014 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanDyer
Frankly if I was a Muslim immigrant in Sweden I might be tempted to lash out also, after my 500th job application was thrown in the trash because of my 'foreign' name.
Holy ****...
03-21-2014 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanDyer
one clue you might be a racist is if you collect that **** to repost.
But of course...
03-21-2014 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanDyer
Anecdotes are not data.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime

I know I know...I'm racist for providing statistics to help show that multiculturalism is an false and bankrupt idea...



Sweden[edit]
Further information: Immigration to Sweden and Crime in Sweden
Immigrants are overrepresented in Sweden's crime statistics. In a study by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention in 1997-2001, 25% of the almost 1,520,000 offences were found to be committed by people born abroad, while almost 20% were committed by Swedish-born people with a foreign background. In the study, immigrants were found to be four times more likely to be investigated for lethal violence and robbery than ethnic Swedes. In addition, immigrants were three times more likely to be investigated for violent assault, and five times more likely to be investigated for sex crimes. Those from North Africa and Western Asia were overrepresented.
The report is based on statistics for those "suspected" of offences, but Stina Holmberg of the Council for Crime Prevention said that there was "little difference" in the statistics for those suspected of crimes and those actually convicted.
"Slightly under 60 percent of the almost 1,520,000 offences ... registered during the period covered by the study can be attributed to persons who were born in Sweden to two Swedish-born parents," it said.[30]
03-21-2014 , 03:40 AM
dude
03-21-2014 , 03:41 AM
stop
03-21-2014 , 03:42 AM
multi-posting. and make your own thread if that's the only aspect of immigration you care to discuss, thanks.

Michael Huemer's essay on immigration restrictions and why they fail

If you would read the article, he explains it. Huemer talks about 'prima facie rights': that absent mitigating circumstances, there is no good reason to prevent someone from doing whatever it is. So unless there is a good reason for killing someone, then that person shouldn't be killed, thus he has a prima facie right to live.

This places the burden of evidence on the other side. If you want to kill the guy, you then have to come up with a good reason to.

Why is it true that people should have a prima facie right to not be killed? Moral intuition, mostly. Huemer is not saying it's some objective, natural right. He's just saying that, as has been empirically tested, pretty much everyone shares this moral intuition.'

Last edited by AlanDyer; 03-21-2014 at 03:51 AM.
03-21-2014 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
Monkey Bananaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Still waiting for you to respond to this.....

America is so bad detaining Mexicans....but what about Australia kicking people out without papers?

I mean...swap America and Australia's locations and guess what? Mexicans would be detained and deported! Just like undocumented illegals are now in Australia.
What exactly do you want me to respond to? I haven't said anything about the US and Mexicans. And I'm not involved in formulating Australia's immigration policy.
03-21-2014 , 10:49 PM
The media keeps attacking FIFA and Qatar for migrant worker deaths. How exactly is transferring the world cup to another country going to benefit the migrant workers?

Seems to me like they'll be even worse off. No job and no visa.

If you assert their bad behaviour is mistreatment of migrant workers, removing the world cup( and all the jobs it creates) from those migrant workers is the very same mistreatment.
03-22-2014 , 12:40 AM
Open borders are both morally and economically correct, which is a good reason it's not going to happen in America in any of our lifetimes. Nothing even close will happen. Many Republicans have a poor or racist attitude toward immigrants. Even more Democrats would rather poor, potential immigrants literally go without work or food than to undercut American workers by 10 cents.
03-22-2014 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanDyer
The media keeps attacking FIFA and Qatar for migrant worker deaths. How exactly is transferring the world cup to another country going to benefit the migrant workers?

Seems to me like they'll be even worse off. No job and no visa.

If you assert their bad behaviour is mistreatment of migrant workers, removing the world cup( and all the jobs it creates) from those migrant workers is the very same mistreatment.
This is the same reasoning idiots use to claim we should not want to see sweatshops closed down.
03-22-2014 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by joeyDizzle
Open borders are both morally and economically correct, which is a good reason it's not going to happen in America in any of our lifetimes. Nothing even close will happen. Many Republicans have a poor or racist attitude toward immigrants. Even more Democrats would rather poor, potential immigrants literally go without work or food than to undercut American workers by 10 cents.
Open borders just here? Or open borders everywhere?
03-22-2014 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanDyer
I don't want to make this about my past but I definitely was a bit ****ed up and "probably" .. was way too forceful with those girls. sigh. I think it was.. 5 years ago.. ? nice to see some fellow old timers on here.

I have a huge scar on my wrist and bicep and recurring pain in my arm after being pushed through a glass door for posting pics of a girl who legit wanted it bad.. so.. i'm older and wiser and less forceful now
Well, so long as you're "less" forceful...

God you're a dumb and terrible human rapist.

Last edited by Merlin's Pants; 03-22-2014 at 11:16 AM.
03-22-2014 , 11:15 AM
03-22-2014 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
Linked sources in the "worthless source"

http://www.austriantimes.at/news/Aro...ugee_Gang_Rape

The 38-year-old woman - who bravely managed to film the attack on her mobile phone - was repeatedly raped after befriending a group of Afghan men in a park in Banja Koviljaca.

"These people are always hanging around the parks and streets during the day causing trouble," said one mum.

"They have no respect for us, no respect for women and we want them gone because they have no right to be here.

"My daughter isn't going to school again while four refugee rapists are still on the streets," she added.

http://www.thelocal.se/20130113/45590

"All five men were involved but it is not yet clear whether they all abused her sexually," Stefan Larsson of the Stockholm police told news agency TT.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-arrests.html

Judge says gang preyed on five girls, aged between 13 and 15, partly because they were from different 'community and religion'

http://standpointmag.co.uk/features-...imps-rotherham

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

Three men, described as Arabic, stopped her.

Probably don't need to open the link to know what happened next.



But keep attacking the source to suppress the truth...

I mean do you actually think politically correct liberal sources would report these increased rape crimes in European countries because of immigrants from the ME and Africa. HA
Lol thedailymail as a "source".

I live in Europe. Violent crime rates here are around 1/5th of what they are in the US. You are just spewing the worst sort of completely unsubstantiated racist/xenophobic vitriol.
03-22-2014 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pantoja
Lol thedailymail as a "source".

I live in Europe. Violent crime rates here are around 1/5th of what they are in the US. You are just spewing the worst sort of completely unsubstantiated racist/xenophobic vitriol.
So all that is just make believe?
03-22-2014 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
oh ya? they are citizens?
Of Mexico? Of course not.
03-22-2014 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyDizzle
Democrats would rather poor, potential immigrants literally go without work or food than to undercut American workers by 10 cents.
Yep. Most 'liberals' I find would let 100 Mexicans starve to employ 1 American. Nationalist as ****, and inefficient as ****.

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Originally Posted by Merlin's Pants
Well, so long as you're "less" forceful...
Less forceful was definitely bad word choice. I was trying to show remorse! Sigh.


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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
This is the same reasoning idiots use to claim we should not want to see sweatshops closed down.
If we want to help the migrant workers in Qatar the answer is not to remove the World Cup.. it's to pressure Qatar on worker rights. Same with sweatshops!
03-23-2014 , 06:21 AM
I don't know why you think they're exclusive but I suppose politics is like that. Take one track. Black or white. There is no alternative.
03-25-2014 , 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
So all that is just make believe?
Itīs worse than that. Itīs consciously invented lies.
03-26-2014 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pantoja
Itīs worse than that. Itīs consciously invented lies.
Haha sure! All those ganbang rapes in Indonesia, Pakistan, India, etc are alllllll make believe.
03-27-2014 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
Haha sure! All those ganbang rapes in Indonesia, Pakistan, India, etc are alllllll make believe.
I thought you were talking about Sweden. Sorry, must be I'm logically challenged.
03-27-2014 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pantoja
I thought you were talking about Sweden. Sorry, must be I'm logically challenged.
And now they are in Sweden.

      
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