No, actually that's not what I meant. I was referring to low key's usage of literal wording. When I said it wasn't in the bible, I was jokingly referring to the actual term "gay marriage".

I'm sure you'll make some silly argument or point to make yourself feel clever, so why don't you just go ahead and get it over with?

Silly point? I mean, they had gay marriage back then so I just wanted to be sure what you meant. If you're saying you didn't mean that then I don't need to correct you.

On the other hand if your to have true religious freedom for individuals then it has to extend to private corporations/businesses they control. Otherwise the state can force then out of business without even having to show a compelling reason for doing so.

There's no way that that's wrong. Almost every single person I've seen comment on the subject and indicate that they're against SSM has proven themselves, through their own words, within a short time period to be in the "gays are icky" crowd.

This is so comical, it makes IkesToys look coherent.

I fully support gay marriage and all the rights they want, but I freely admit I'm not all that comfortable around gay people.

I'm sure the reverse is also true.

yeah, gay people probably feel pretty uncomfortable around a dickbag who doesn't feel comfortable around gay people

Yup.

Note how kioshk hasn't actually attempted to make an argument to defend his position.

Your other hand sounds a lot like the reasoning in the Hobby Lobby decision.

This is a very poor reading of my position.

It amuses me how easy it is for me to prove myself right. I get openly insulted by people like you in in public and the moderators do absolutely nothing, and when I do something that is considered mild I get a day ban?

Low, how do we go from me not even knowing who are you a day or two ago to you having this much vitriol for me? You have been trolling me and following me thread to thread like a puppy looking for attention. What exactly is it that you want from me?

Do yourself a favor and find a girlfriend or hobby and try to get your self confidence up. You having this bizarre fascination with my opinion on topics makes you look like a creepo.

Ew.

Most people realize attacks are allowed in one forum but not the other.

Oh damn, this is unchained? I thought it was politics.

You're right. I admit I'm wrong.

**** you Low, bitch ass mfer.

(this was actually meant to be humorous, really I couldn't give a **** about Low Key one way or the other).

I don't think the people that do it would claim it's part of their religious beliefs, but yes, it is certainly a protected right.

And if you want to start a religion tomorrow that features a sacred ceremony where you dance naked around a burning cross (or an effigy of Elvis, or anything else) nobody can stop you.

Wow, wil as dumb as ever. Comes into threads I'm posting in, then claims I'm following him around. What a self-centered piece of human filth. I'd feel uncomfortable around him and I'm not even gay.

Sorry, I meant cross burning in the traditional sense.

Because typical it violates the rights of others. Kind of like denying equal rights to people who want to get married.

Do you give off some sort of vibe that makes them try to mount you?

I do and am trying to set up a support group.

SCOTUS has ruled that it is permissible for states to ban cross burning if the intention is to intimidate. Virginia v Black held that the state still has to prove intent instead of taking cross burning itself as prima facie evidence of intent to intimidate.

There are probably some who believe that cross burning should be permitted whenever and wherever flag burning is permitted.

That's absolutely moronic and juvenile.

It's cool, wil also doesn't like black people who act too black. Or 'ratchet' as I hear he calls it.

There's nothing moronic or juvenile about it. In fact I was talking about it to my best friend the other day as we were having dinner. He was telling me a story about his wife's brother who is best friends with a pair of lesbians. I mentioned I sometimes feel a bit uncomfortable around gay people, and he said he felt the same.

I don't think it's strange to not understand certain aspects of homosexuals. I'm really straight, I really like women, relating to gay men can be difficult sometimes. One of my gay friends tried to talk me into some sexual activity and I got pissed at him, but we kinda laughed it off.

Like I said, I fully support them, but that doesn't mean I have to enjoy drag shows to do it.

I'm attractive. (shrugs shoulders) What can I say?

I'm not particularly well-versed in Klan rituals, but I was thinking of when they go out in the woods, presumably on private property, and burn a big cross while marching around or whatever. But if you're talking about burning a cross on a black family's lawn to "encourage" them to move out of the neighborhood, then yeah, obviously that's awful (and criminal, as it should be).
Thanks, I didn't know that one. Interesting case.

Coincidentally saw this headline on Salon today:

"What this is really about is bigotry”: Atheist guest shreds Fox News panel’s “religious freedom” argument
"There's nobody out there trying to get Christian preachers to marry people against their will" he said

There really are a significant number of conservative Christians who feel they are "under attack' from militant atheists. It's making this guy's job harder, and is probably counterproductive to the cause of gay marriage, if there really are people who are demanding that churches perform gay marriages against their will.

Lololololol 'it's not moronic, I spoke to another person who feels the same way'. Also since when does not understanding aspects of someone mean you feel uncomfortable around them?

Wil reveals that he is prejudiced towards yet another group of people. Tragic stuff

I find it oddly amusing that whenever wil gets called out for saying something prejudicial he always has a 'well I talked with a guy about this the other day and I'm right'.

Usually the story involves talking to someone in the target group and not just a friend that also feels icky around certain people though.