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Originally Posted by Roonil Wazlib
how choosy of a choice is it if it's "a choice", but not really because you'd be alienated from your family/society/etc?
Agree with ikes, I can totally see this and used to argue the same. In the end I think all you can do is provide people with an environment where they can make their own choice. It is fairly interesting where exactly you would draw the line though, and how much abuse and damage can be behind a behaviour/desire before taking the right for it away.
Also yeah, tien is pretty bad.