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08-09-2017 , 03:09 PM

#1001

frommagio

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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

Stalk someone else.

Uhhhhh, the last time I remember talking to you was back when you suffered that major malfunction and auto-spammed the unchained forum 50 times a day for months. What was that, a year or two ago?

Thanks for bringing back the old memories.

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08-09-2017 , 03:16 PM

#1002

spanktehbadwookie

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No remained no. Frommaggoogoo ever on topic?

08-09-2017 , 03:18 PM

#1003

frommagio

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Not sure what means, but have a great day.

08-09-2017 , 04:51 PM

#1004

Victor

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Originally Posted by JiggyMac

You have to prove collusion. If each team decides on their own not to take him, that's their choice. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/03/24/co...on-free-agency

We are talking about a league that doesn't let you pick your own shoe style for goodness sake.

Media and entertainment companies do appear to have exemptions for "image" purposes.

That said - I simply contend that running quarterbacks don't last in the NFL and he's past his prime. If I were a coach or owner, I'd have to be scraping pretty low to take him.

its pretty much impossible to prove.

but its pretty clear that he is far better than many of the qbs that have been signed already. he was a starting qb last year. all accounts from his teammates and coaches were extremely positive.

considering each team rosters 4 or 5 qbs right now, there is absolutely no way he is not a top ~100 qb. that should ensure him a spot in camp. if he was at the lower end, around 120-140, I would understand being left out. but he is clearly at worst a top 40-50 qb and possibly much better.

08-09-2017 , 05:17 PM

#1005

ogallalabob

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Originally Posted by Victor

For the last 2 years it was a toss up as to whether he or Gabbert was the best QB on the Niners. Gabbert signed for 700,000 non guaranteed and battling for third string.

The fact that teams have 4 or 5 QB's on the roster is really irrelevant unless you believe that he would accept a non guaranteed minimum contract, like Gabbert. Which I highly doubt.

08-09-2017 , 05:18 PM

#1006

kerowo

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I don't know, he doesn't appear to be getting better in his starts, why take a guy you know isn't likely to be the guy over a guy who is all potential?

08-09-2017 , 11:54 PM

#1007

campfirewest

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The fact is he's nowhere as good as he used to be and is kind of an ******* who causes distractions, so teams are passing on him. That's a lot different than blackballing or colluding against someone.

08-10-2017 , 12:07 AM

#1008

fuluck414

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I could be mistaken but aren't his career stats better than like 6 current starters?

08-10-2017 , 12:47 AM

#1009

auralex14

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Originally Posted by Black Peter

How did your high school football team do? How about college? Did you even play? I love how spectators are so quick to judge NFL players. Kind of like movie critics. If you can't do it, critique it, amirite?

This is nonsense. Do you have to be a horse to know anything about horse racing?

Kap sucks. Well, he's not good enough for it to outweigh his baggage. He would've been a bench player were it not for his political talk (anthem, Castro, etc).

But he sucks.

08-10-2017 , 03:09 AM

#1010

xnbomb

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Originally Posted by Victor

he was a "starting QB" on one of the worst teams in the last decade and didn't even start game 1?? The team didn't put up 24 in a single game and he has 0 upside at this point as a past his prime running QB. He has next to no value, particularly if he's not even going to be the back up, which he shouldn't be for basically any team

08-10-2017 , 07:09 AM

#1011

frommagio

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The market is pretty weak for past their prime running quarterbacks who never could pass.

08-10-2017 , 08:47 AM

#1012

NoQuarter

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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

It's permanently sad for supremacists.

There may be an argument for separatist, but I am no supremacist you rambling/babbling schmuck.

Reminds me of a famous & beloved Mooslim Separatists' interview that I have shared b4. This is just a snip, I cant seem to find the full interview...

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08-10-2017 , 09:33 AM

#1013

spanktehbadwookie

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This ain't the sports forum, meatheads.

08-10-2017 , 09:49 AM

#1014

6ix

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Yeah, I don't know **** about football but I wish there was an internet and a thread for when Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf got blacklisted from the NBA.

"Pssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh that dude can barely make a layup!"

08-10-2017 , 10:42 AM

#1015

ogallalabob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fuluck414

I could be mistaken but aren't his career stats better than like 6 current starters?

Probably, on the other hand teams generally are trying to find someone who has upside and might become a top 10 QB and not lock themselves into the bottom 10. The statement also ignores all of the backup QB's who are better then the bottom 6 starters.

Here is a good article that he has been better then Flaco since Flaco's super bowl and big contract.

http://presnapreads.com/2017/07/30/c...an-joe-flacco/

Of course the article primarily focuses on how bad Flaco has been and how Kaepernick could possibly be slightly better. Not really inspirational for teams wanting to solve a qb problem.

08-10-2017 , 11:20 AM

#1016

Victor

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Originally Posted by ogallalabob

teams sign veterans with little chance to improve into top 10 qbs to back up contracts all the time.

08-10-2017 , 12:31 PM

#1017

ogallalabob

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Originally Posted by Victor

teams sign veterans with little chance to improve into top 10 qbs to back up contracts all the time.

Sure, I was replying to the Kaepernick career stats are better then 6 starters career stats. If you agree, no team should be looking for him as a starter that is fine. But besides saying he wants to play and his agent saying the reports of his contract demands are not accurate, (where it was widely reported he wanted 10 million a season and assurances that he would be given a chance to compete for a starting shot) Kaep has not said he would accept a backup role and a strictly a backup type salary of 1-4 million.

08-11-2017 , 12:36 AM

#1018

fuluck414

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I was just saying he could start in a pinch, which would make him an above average backup.

I wish Seattle would sign him, he'd work well here.

08-11-2017 , 01:43 AM

#1019

kerowo

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I think if he could pass well enough to be a backup for wilson we wouldn't be having this conversation. Besides being a ****ing 49er, it's almost as bad as wanting a Steeler on the team.

08-11-2017 , 07:35 AM

#1020

wil318466

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I think many of you simply forget QB is the face of the team. The baggage counts.

I'm from Philadelphia and I was totally fine with Vick being our QB. That being said, I completely understand why they would have skipped on him for the dog-fighting thing. I'm not an animal guy, but I've talked to many people who absolutely despised him because he was mean to animals.

I personally didn't care, but I see why people would skip on Kaepernick.

08-11-2017 , 07:54 AM

#1021

Trolly McTrollson

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He's clearly good enough for the Browns.

08-11-2017 , 08:04 AM

#1022

wil318466

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

He's clearly good enough for the Browns.

He's CLEARLY the best choice for the Cleveland Browns as a backup.

LOL @ this.

08-11-2017 , 08:54 AM

#1023

Trolly McTrollson

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He couldn't possibly be much worse than the usual clowns who QB for Cleveland. Remember Johnny Football?

08-11-2017 , 09:14 AM

#1024

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

He couldn't possibly be much worse than the usual clowns who QB for Cleveland. Remember Johnny Football?

Things are different now, they have Brock Osweiller.

08-11-2017 , 09:14 AM

#1025

Victor

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hes easily the best choice to start for the browns if they want to win games.

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