wat about the penis tho

Aofrantic hiding is hilarious.

Maybe he doesn't want you conducting a nazi style penis inspection.

wil is the kind of guy that would claim to have trans friends and "I have beers with them all the time" but then he sits here and denies that trans is even a thing. What a piece of ****.

Speaking of power rankings, does wil not know what a 'lie' is?

The bards foretold in song his glorious return.

It seems you've done absolutely nothing to understand my position at all. When I say I do not deny anyone's humanity or their right to exist, how could you actually make a statement like this?

I wish people well in their pursuit of happiness and fulfillment. That doesn't mean I have to agree with them. I do not agree with many religious people's beliefs, yet I respect their ability to hold those beliefs as long as they do not infringe on me, within reason.

You can "ask me" to to call you a female, but don't force me to. You can "ask me" to call abortion immoral, but don't force me to.

Your virtue signalling here is humorous, though. Maybe if you keep doing it you'll feel better about yourself. I doubt it.

No, you've made it very clear. "I'm friends of the trans community and I support them, but **** their rights."


Just don't claim that you accept them. Look at mondigimon. He doesn't pretend to be a liberal.

Apparently I haven't made myself very clear because you *clearly* do not understand my position.

Firstly, why do you think there are people who describe themselves as "classic liberals", now? Have you noticed that the term is being used more often lately? Why do you think that is?

Secondly, do you think there is a difference between males and females, and that it is reasonable to make that distinction, and have a set of rules, when it comes to assigning bathrooms to these two groups? Mind you, I've stated previously that I would rather have all bathrooms be mixed together than to go through this ridiculous exercise of the transgender issue.

If you can honestly answer the above questions (and I highly doubt you'll be honest, as all of you leftists have proven how incredibly dishonest you are time and time again), you'll have your answer. Stop and think about my actual position rather than throwing emotion into your argument. Again, I do not deny people's right to exist or their humanity or their pursuit of happiness - in fact, I wish them well. What I don't want is me having to change what I, and vast majority of humanity, and the entire history of the definition of gender (which is possibly the ONLY meaningful distinction between ALL humans) in our species, to have to change due to another person's self-perception.

Cats are not dogs because you know a cat that acts like a dog. I'm sorry, really, I am. I don't mean to hurt your feelings or make you upset about this, but I have my opinion and it's not going to change. You can't change biology because of your mental state or your self-perception.

Just one more thought, do you not think it's a bit humorous that you want me to call a transgender by what they identify as, yet you won't do the same courtesy for me when I identify as a liberal?

Everything about you people should be questioned. You all seem so confused and disorientated in every discussion. Quid pro quo, Clarice.

You pretend to be fine with this hypothetical to show how open minded and accepting you are about it, but I'm not stupid enough to think that you actually believe this given your last few days worth of posting about physically blocking someone from using their restroom of choice. If you really believe that you'd be totally fine with mixed bathrooms, I don't see how you have a problem with trans people using their bathroom of choice. What's the practical difference?


I guess I'm mostly taking issue with the contradiction of saying you support rights and of saying that you have a total lack of understanding/acceptance.

You have completely missed my point because you do not understand what I'm actually saying. My first choice would be that biological males should be in bathrooms with other biological males, and vice versa. If you force me to accept biological males who identify as females may enter female bathrooms, I would rather have no bathrooms at all.

You couldn't be further from the mark. Now, knowing what I'm saying, go over it again.

What does this mean? No matter who you are there are positions of other people that you disagree with. Do you deny them their humanity or their right to exist?

Of course transgenders have rights, they are human beings. They have a right to live in peace and security. I think they should be protected from harm. I feel the same way for religious people, no matter what weird crap they believe.

Is it OK for you to go out and murder people who are racists? Of course not. Do you have to respect their beliefs? Of course not.

Rethink some things, Crispen.

Terrible reasoning again from silly little wil.

Transgenders exhibit the properties of the gender they identify with and want to be accepted as. You, however, along with other terrible impersonators such as hastendan, exhibit none of the properties of a liberal and all of those of a neo-fascist.

How was your penis patrol last night? Did you find any even smaller than yours?

Explain the bolded, please.

You support people who run around in masks and burn things down and prevent opposing views from speaking, yet I am the fascist? When will you start burning books?

Again, everything about you people should be questioned. Who is really the intolerant one? Who is actually the person who will not listen to the other side?

Make no mistake here. There are many people who will read these exchanges who will never say a word in public but who will think very carefully about what we say (and agonize over it). I am supremely confident most of them will side with me, even if they won't come out and say it. The righteous path is hard.

Lolwil not understanding what vice versa means gives him the literacy level of a ten year old.


Lolwil lives up to his self-proclaimed "free thinker" tag by proposing that restaurants and bars dispense with toilets altogether. Genius.


Rethink your whole life, wil.

Properties in the sense of behaviour and physical appearance.

When have I ever supported people who run around in masks and burn things down? Cite or retract, penis patroller.

One of us is incoherent. I leave it to the judgment of the forum to choose.

Tomorrow is another day, and I'll either wake up with a notification that Chez banned me or not.

Supporting the notion that we don't kill them for being who they are is not the same as supporting their civil rights. So far, all you've managed to say is that you're okay with them existing.

Respecting beliefs has very little to do with this. It's not something they are just deciding...


Going to bed. Night, wil.

If all the books were burnt up I guarantee wil would not notice.

Softballs ITT.

presumably trans ppl have needed to use the bathroom for many years prior to this becoming a main stream issue. so what did they do before? were there any incidents or issues or assaults or anything improper? bc I have never heard of any problems, even after the new bathroom bans and the publicity.

so, like, if there hasnt been any improper behavior, why the hell does it matter which bathroom they use?

The weak (minded) have inherited the earth (or the USA anyway).

Big adams apple...big hands...etc.

The guy from Khazitstan is making fun of the USA?

Certain topics should not be main stream.

When wil gets in this gear I think of Zach G's 'pretentious illiterate' impression.

I've told you, I don't know how to read.