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05-21-2016 , 03:21 PM
My last 3 deposits all from same processor have been greatly over charged and charged as cash advances instead of regular purchase charges in total they owe me somewhere in the neighborhood of 250-300 in fees. Also this happend two weeks ago and after complaining was told that they could remove that processor only to have the exact same thing happen under a new processor. They tell me oooo... It's a different processor try explaining that yes it's a new processor but doing exact same thing as last one just new name of course support like talking to the wall ... So now I get to spend an hour going through comprising another ****ing email to support
05-21-2016 , 03:43 PM
The processor in question first charge made was for $987.35 and was charged astounding $1,034.26 .....
Actual amount credited Amount charged
$987.35 $1,034.26
$894.30 $ 936.79
$1,489.45 $1,559.49

Also received cash advance fee of $83.72

So if your using a credit card be advised had 3 deposits early this week not quite as big that were processed normal as regular purchases all from same credit card so no good rhyme or reason why the sudden change ..... Again all (6) of these charges I speak of from same credit card

Last edited by Mike Haven; 05-22-2016 at 07:08 PM.
05-21-2016 , 03:48 PM
Around 4.75% fee + cash advance fee!
Is this normal?
05-21-2016 , 03:53 PM
A total of $243.16 and counting in fees and won't let me withdrawal until 72 hours after last deposit. Remember cash advances fees are countinually running up on a ridiculous 29% apr daily. Also now that scan through last few months of transactions I'm noticing even more fleecing by sketchy processers (although it's nowhere near as bad as these most recent deposits
05-21-2016 , 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12312199
Around 4.75% fee + cash advance fee!
Is this normal?
Absolutely not I'm just guessing but for sure I've made over 350 deposits prob closer to (500) in last 4 yrs on this site all with same credit card for most part 98-99 % time their charged like any normal purchases (I.e not cash advances)
05-21-2016 , 03:58 PM
The kicker is last week I was told that my account would be blocked from these such processors and after making 3 deposits that were charged as regular purchases I felt like ok it's fine then back to this ****
05-21-2016 , 04:08 PM
I've suggested cancelling charges and taking money out of my account as my current balance more than covers these charges but I don't think their more than incompetent support knows or cares about what I'm trying to convey to them. As they were just made on (2)- 5/20/16 (1)-5/21/16

Maybe WPN rep can help?
05-21-2016 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pubhead
I've suggested cancelling charges and taking money out of my account as my current balance more than covers these charges but I don't think their more than incompetent support knows or cares about what I'm trying to convey to them. As they were just made on (2)- 5/20/16 (1)-5/21/16

Maybe WPN rep can help?
This happened to me on bcp a few months ago - I contacted support, screenshotted the transaction info from my bank, and they credited the fees to my account...

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05-21-2016 , 06:08 PM
Never, ever, ever use your debit or credit cards on these offshore sites. If you want to use a Visa buy a prepaid card and put the exact amount on.

Lots of people have these kinds of issues since black friday and issues that were much worse.

The poker sites use scummy 3rd party processor's, the last thing you should be doing is giving that kind of info to people already breaking US laws.
05-21-2016 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CallYouWin
Never, ever, ever use your debit or credit cards on these offshore sites. If you want to use a Visa buy a prepaid card and put the exact amount on.

Lots of people have these kinds of issues since black friday and issues that were much worse.

The poker sites use scummy 3rd party processor's, the last thing you should be doing is giving that kind of info to people already breaking US laws.
This. I'm amazed at the constant lack of due diligence of online poker players expressed on these boards. With all the other alternatives nowadays, why anyone continues to directly use traditional credit or debit cards on these sites is beyond me.
05-22-2016 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Thinking Out Loud
This. I'm amazed at the constant lack of due diligence of online poker players expressed on these boards. With all the other alternatives nowadays, why anyone continues to directly use traditional credit or debit cards on these sites is beyond me.

first and foremost I would never use a debit card but cc I don't see as being as dangerous. I've used net spend visa for a long time until I consistently would load 200 and only be able to get like 170 of that 200 on and be left with a card that would have like 2 and some change left on it somehow 15-20 bucks seemed to vanish into thin air. After that happened 5-10 times I had it


My newest angle will be to buy Bitcoin on cc if even possible (as I'm guessing processors are far less sketch ball than wpn's)
05-22-2016 , 10:19 AM
bro. bitcoin
05-22-2016 , 11:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pubhead
first and foremost I would never use a debit card but cc I don't see as being as dangerous. I've used net spend visa for a long time until I consistently would load 200 and only be able to get like 170 of that 200 on and be left with a card that would have like 2 and some change left on it somehow 15-20 bucks seemed to vanish into thin air. After that happened 5-10 times I had it


My newest angle will be to buy Bitcoin on cc if even possible (as I'm guessing processors are far less sketch ball than wpn's)
Sure, a CC will refund your money relatively question free, but if you continually have problems they'll eventually say they don't want your business. It's also an unnecessary hassle when you can trade money on 2+2 or buy bitcoin.
05-22-2016 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pubhead
first and foremost I would never use a debit card but cc I don't see as being as dangerous. I've used net spend visa for a long time until I consistently would load 200 and only be able to get like 170 of that 200 on and be left with a card that would have like 2 and some change left on it somehow 15-20 bucks seemed to vanish into thin air. After that happened 5-10 times I had it


My newest angle will be to buy Bitcoin on cc if even possible (as I'm guessing processors are far less sketch ball than wpn's)
Not trying to berate you, we all make mistakes, live and learn but the bold underlies my point about lack of due diligence. Winning Network has been offering BTC deposits for quite awhile now, presumably even during some of those CC deposits you have made to them, which resulted in cash advances, yet you still aren't even sure if a CC can be used to obtain BTC.

With all the available info on 2+2 and on the web in general, at some point multiple unexpected cash advance charges, bounced checks, unauthorized charges, blacklists, etc, become the fault of willfully uninformed players, not the sites.
05-22-2016 , 02:32 PM
i dont think ur being charged a cash advance fee bro, its pry an international fee. I have used CC's in the past with no international fees and i have never been charged more than my deposit
05-22-2016 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
i dont think ur being charged a cash advance fee bro, its pry an international fee. I have used CC's in the past with no international fees and i have never been charged more than my deposit
It's 100% been charged as a cash advance it says cash advance fee $83.72
05-22-2016 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 12312199
Around 4.75% fee + cash advance fee!
Is this normal?
Bovada charges all customers 4.9% up front. The credit card itself may charge an additional percentage (typically 3) for International conversion fees. And yes, cash advance is still possible on top of that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
i dont think ur being charged a cash advance fee bro, its pry an international fee. I have used CC's in the past with no international fees and i have never been charged more than my deposit
Yes, it is almost certainly an International FX fee.

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Originally Posted by aFritzPoker
bro. bitcoin
Yup, I concur. All these problems go away if you adopt bitcoin. It's really not that difficult to use either.

--
Kahn
05-23-2016 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Bovada charges all customers 4.9% up front. The credit card itself may charge an additional percentage (typically 3) for International conversion fees. And yes, cash advance is still possible on top of that.



Yes, it is almost certainly an International FX fee.



Yup, I concur. All these problems go away if you adopt bitcoin. It's really not that difficult to use either.

--
Kahn



I've been reimbursed for the full amount 243 ... Whatever it was

Last edited by pubhead; 05-23-2016 at 12:27 PM. Reason: Lock it up mod

      
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