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SNG Promotion Starting Saturday Nov. 15th SNG Promotion Starting Saturday Nov. 15th

11-13-2014 , 11:25 AM
11-13-2014 , 12:07 PM
This will literally almost double the prize pool for the sng guys

I also like the happy hour changes as it prevents someone from just grinding the 3 3-hour blocks and winning the leaderboard. It should also increase volume overall as its not likely someone will just reg for an individual hour and would hopefully play straight through both happy hours.

Well done
11-13-2014 , 01:13 PM
A related announcement that some of you may have already noticed:

Last Thursday we uploaded a fix for lobby updates. Both the main lobbies and the tournament lobbies update much more frequently and without having the focus. Hopefully this is a big improvement for everyone.
11-13-2014 , 02:06 PM
Getting the volume up in the 6-9max tourneys is going to be very big.

Having the happy hours book end the peak times is going to be very big since it might be possible to grind 5 straight hours now every day of the week.

Nice work WPN!
11-13-2014 , 02:08 PM
And as usual husng gets left out
11-13-2014 , 02:23 PM
My opinion only:

Promo is intended to get games loading and a more healthy ecosystem.

HUSNG's already load easier since they only require two people, however even they will benefit because better traffic helps everyone.
11-13-2014 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by zerosum79
DoN's are not included in the points multipliers (except in happy hour, where everything will double including the formats with the new promotional multipliers).

DoN's during happy hour get 2x but now regular speed SNG's are getting 4x during happy hour (compared to their old points total), and Turbo/Hyper turbo 6-9max are getting 3x.

The cumulative effect should be that the games that are not running get a higher incentive and this should not be DoNandCrush anymore.

zero
wpnrep or winningtd can you confirm that dons are included in the multipliers or not? my understanding is that they are, turbos 1.5x and reg speeds 2x, but zero has interpreted the rules differently. i just want clarification on this please.
11-13-2014 , 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr0n3
wpnrep or winningtd can you confirm that dons are included in the multipliers or not? my understanding is that they are, turbos 1.5x and reg speeds 2x, but zero has interpreted the rules differently. i just want clarification on this please.
Sorry for the confusion.

zerosum79 has it correct. I'm having the webpage updated to clear the confusion.

2x is for regular sngs.
1.5 is for regular turbo/hypers (which excludes DONs)
11-13-2014 , 04:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WPN Rep
Sorry for the confusion.

zerosum79 has it correct. I'm having the webpage updated to clear the confusion.

2x is for regular sngs.
1.5 is for regular turbo/hypers (which excludes DONs)
BOO! I understand wanting to build the other games action but to have them get those kind of points all the time and during happy hours get double the already doubled is a bit too much.

It's bad enough a $1 on demand is now going to get 4x what it gets now (if I read that correctly) so it will be 2.4 points and 4.8 during happy hour when they really aren't paying much into the pool.
11-13-2014 , 04:12 PM
Thats really a big deal to kill the don action like that. The promotion was NOT worded to exclude dons in anyway and now it is...? How did zero know this and no one else did? I was just getting to the point where I could almost average 20 tables during peak hours, but I guess that's no longer going to happen. There's no way this promotion will make it the next 90 days as is...changes are going to have to be made just like every other time you guys have rolled out a flawed promotion. I don't mind playing other formats and obviously am going to have to, but I don't understand how killing the action in the most popular format is going to benefit anyone... You think I'm going to be able to 20+ table 6 and 9 man reg/turbo sngs? There's no way, but if the promotion was what was originally announced/released/posted I'm sure I'd be getting close to 30 tables of dons for 6+ hours a day...seems like you'd want MORE games to run not less!

Last edited by RAVegas; 11-13-2014 at 04:18 PM.
11-13-2014 , 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerBottlez
BOO! I understand wanting to build the other games action but to have them get those kind of points all the time and during happy hours get double the already doubled is a bit too much.

It's bad enough a $1 on demand is now going to get 4x what it gets now (if I read that correctly) so it will be 2.4 points and 4.8 during happy hour when they really aren't paying much into the pool.
We did not take DONs out of the running. All aspects must be taken into consideration, which includes things like the duration of the game and the percentage of rake for the format.

All formats, which includes DONs, get double points during happy hours.

The ODs maintain the same multiplier they have now, 4x. (Not 4x what they are now.)
11-13-2014 , 04:28 PM
I understand the network trying to cater to everyone but I'd rather they kept the points as is and have extra happy hours a few hours a night exclusively for non-DON formats instead of double the points all the time for regulars and 1.5 for turbos.

We will just have to wait and see how things turn out as far as the game traffic goes.
11-13-2014 , 05:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WPN Rep
Sorry for the confusion.

zerosum79 has it correct. I'm having the webpage updated to clear the confusion.

2x is for regular sngs.
1.5 is for regular turbo/hypers (which excludes DONs)
So much for last week when you said this promotion would make us happy.....oh well
11-13-2014 , 06:43 PM
see you guys on the 15th
11-13-2014 , 07:22 PM
good to see the dons getting thrown under the bus

is this still a weekly promo?
11-13-2014 , 07:26 PM
The only way this kills the DONs is if it increases traffic so much that 9 man players who are forced to play DONs (myself) can actually 15 table 9 mans. I don't see that happening, I see my volume being the same with a higher % of 9 mans but still with over 50% of my volume in DONs.

If all the DON players were playing for RB and LB, then relax as the regs leave for their bread and butter games, the DONs will soften up and rois will increase.
11-13-2014 , 07:26 PM
Yes sir. It will be weekly!
11-13-2014 , 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Wonderful
The only way this kills the DONs is if it increases traffic so much that 9 man players who are forced to play DONs (myself) can actually 15 table 9 mans. I don't see that happening, I see my volume being the same with a higher % of 9 mans but still with over 50% of my volume in DONs.

If all the DON players were playing for RB and LB, then relax as the regs leave for their bread and butter games, the DONs will soften up and rois will increase.
the don's roi's will go up, but the volume will be in the toilet.
11-13-2014 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jim718181
the don's roi's will go up, but the volume will be in the toilet.
We'll see. I don't see the new rules of the promo driving SO much 9 man traffic that DONs die. With the added money traffic will likely be up in all formats, players grinding for high LB spots are still going to be playing DONs so they can play more games per hour
11-13-2014 , 08:00 PM
we'll see. I think they should have done separate lb's. They are giving the other format grinders a huge advantage.
11-13-2014 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jim718181
we'll see. I think they should have done separate lb's. They are giving the other format grinders a huge advantage.
True, but I believe the popularity of the DONs was to do with it not being balanced correctly in the other direction. Here's how you guys SHOULD be looking at it; They made some changes to how you earn points. We can argue over if those changes are good or bad. They added significant money from their own pockets= good for all.
11-13-2014 , 08:06 PM
Huge advantage lmao. You can reg $10-50 9mans all day and you'll get about 3 ****in games to go off. You think everyone is magically gonna pour into the 9mans and abandon the DoNs? Not to mention the fact that as an american SnG grinder you should be well versed in multiple formats if you're interested in making $$ or being one of the best and be in these 9mans too!

A lot of people prefer other formats to DoNs, if they make a WPN account and see all DoNs running and only a handful of v low stakes games at the other formats they might just peace and not play here. This promo is good for WPN and good for those of us who struggle to get more than a handful of tables at our favorite games.
11-13-2014 , 11:55 PM
I believe they need to offer more 9 man sngs and as far as dons go, merge has plenty of 10 man regular dons popping off which I believe merge players would flock over here to play. Just my opinion but i played there enough and saw the same players good and bad day in and day out to know rb and lb would bring them. I"ve mentioned this once before or a dozen times, you guys at one point gave us rb and bonuses at 100% which you aren't doing bonuses right now but if you did and offered the 100% redemption a few times a month that wouldnt hurt traffic for sure.
11-14-2014 , 12:57 AM
Bookending the peak hours with Happy Hours to extend the peak hours was a good idea. Merge used to put their Happy Hours at a time that, if anything, drew players away from the peak hours which did no good at all.

I do think that the regular speed DONs should get a 1.5 multiplier though. Or better yet, change the 6max DONs to 10max whose length would better justify a multiplier.
11-14-2014 , 01:31 AM
Please no 10 max DONs it would be painful waiting for them to fill especially in the early and later hours of the day.

      
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