0:00 $500 Hyper Turbo MEGA STACK
0:15 $2 Freezeout 6 Max
0:45 $10 PLO8 6 Max
0:00 BIG10 - $500 GTD
1:00 $200 GTD
1:15 $30 KO Freezeout
1:45 $15 Turbo Freezeout
2:00 $100 GTD PLO 6-Max R/A
2:15 $50 6 Max Freezeout
2:45 $1 PLO8 6 Max KO
3:00 $100 GTD TURBO Deep Stack
3:15 $0.50 Freezeout
3:45 $20 PLO 6 Max KO Freezeout
4:00 $10 Mega Bounty - 6-Max
4:15 $3 Freezeout
4:45 $7 4 Max Freezeout
5:00 $100 GTD R/A
5:15 $60 PLO8 6 Max KO Turbo Megastack Freezeout
5:45 $0.50 PLO Turbo R/A
6:00 $3 Hyper Turbo MEGA STACK
6:15 $50 8 Max Freezeout
6:45 $2 6 Max R/A
7:00 $20 Winner Takes All - Hyper Megastack
7:15 $10 PLO8 4 Max KO Freezeout
7:45 $1 6 Max KO Freezeout
8:00 $150 GTD
8:15 $80 Freezeout
8:45 $10 6 Max PLO Freezeout
9:00 $200 GTD
9:15 $5 4 Max Freezeout
9:45 $30 PLO8 6 Max KO Freezeout
10:00 $300 GTD R/A
10:15 $20 6 Max Turbo Freezeout
10:45 $100 KO Freezeout
11:00 $500 GTD R/A
11:15 $10 6 Max PLO Freezeout
11:45 $30 1 Rebuy 1 Add On
12:00 $200 GTD PLO8 R/A
12:00 $500 GTD
12:15 $80 Freezeout
12:30 $400 GTD TURBO KO
12:45 $0.25 6 Max PLO R/A
13:00 $1,000 GTD R/A
13:15 $30 6 Max Turbo Freezeout
13:30 $500 GTD
13:45 $150 Freezeout
14:00 $1,000 GTD
14:00 $1,500 GTD
14:15 $200 GTD
14:20 $20 8 Max R/A
14:30 TURBO10 - $600 GTD
14:45 $30 PLO 6 Max KO Freezeout
15:00 $4,000GTD
15:00 BIG10 - $1,000 GTD
15:15 $2 PLo Hi Lo
15:25 $15 Freezeout
15:30 TURBO10 - $300 GTD PLO R/A
15:45 $250 GTD 6 Max Freezeout
16:00 $1,200 GTD
16:00 BIG10 - $1,000 GTD PLO Hi/Lo
16:10 $100 8 Max KO Freezeout
16:15 $150 GTD
16:30 TURBO10 - $1,000 GTD Hyper Turbo
16:45 $5 4 Max Freezeout
16:45 $250 GTD - Hyper Turbo MEGA STACK R/A
17:00 BIG10 - $5,000 GTD
17:10 $30 PLO Turbo Freezeout
17:15 $500 GTD 6 Max KO
17:30 TURBO10 - $100 GTD MEGA STACK
17:35 $2 Freezeout
17:45 $1000 GTD R/A
18:00 $1,000 GTD R/A
18:00 BIG10 - $10,000 GTD
18:15 $1,000 GTD PLO
18:20 $8 8 Max Freezeout
18:30 TURBO10 - $1,500 GTD 6-Max
18:35 $60 PLO8 6 Max KO Freezeout
18:45 $400 GTD
19:00 $2,000 GTD R/A
19:00 $500 GTD - Hyper Turbo MEGA STACK
19:00 BIG10 - $15,000 GTD
19:15 $100 GTD
19:15 $4,000 GTD 8-Max
19:20 $15 Turbo Freezeout
19:25 $150 GTD Freezeout
19:30 TURBO10 - $400 GTD PLO Hi/Lo
19:35 $1 KO Freezeout
19:45 $100 GTD PLO 6-Max
20:00 $300 GTD
20:00 BIG10 - $3,000 GTD
20:05 $3 6 Max Freezeout
20:15 $500 GTD Freezeout
20:20 $10,000 GTD
20:30 $250 GTD
20:30 $50 GTD
20:30 TURBO10 - $1,200 GTD
20:35 $100 PLO8 6 Max Turbo Freezeout
20:45 $50 GTD KO Freezeout
21:00 $1,000 GTD PLO 6-Max
21:00 $1,500 GTD R/A
21:00 $300 GTD Turbo Deep Stack
21:00 BIG10 - $1,250 GTD 6-Max KO
21:15 $1,200 GTD 6-Max
21:15 $100 GTD Turbo Freezeout
21:20 $0.50 6 Max Turbo R/A
21:30 TURBO10 - $2,000 GTD
21:45 $100 GTD
21:45 $5,000 GTD
21:50 $15 KO Freezeout
22:00 $3000 GTD Megastack Turbo
22:00 BIG10 - $1,500 GTD
22:00 $600 GTD Turbo Freezeout
22:15 $200 GTD PLO Turbo Freezeout 6 Max
22:20 $0.50 PLO8 R/A
22:30 TURBO10 - $1,500 GTD MEGA STACK
22:45 $1 6 Max KO Freezeout
23:00 BIG10 - $1000 GTD
23:10 $100 Super KO Turbo Megastack Freezeout
23:15 $500 GTD Turbo Freezout
23:30 TURBO10 - $400 GTD 6-Max
23:45 $30 PLO8 6 Max KO Freezeout


Thoughts on these Freezeouts being added with the current schedule.. see how they do then put with the new schedule with new additions and changes!

Those freezouts are like the gi60m..just rubbish to make a couple of guys happy that don't understand how the network can grow.

Personally I wish we could have more 50´s 100´s 215´s...but that's not what will make wpn grow.

You need to target the low/mid stakes grinders who right now only play in wpn on Sunday. Week schedule needs to be appealing to retain them, shows that worth to play in wpn, with enough mtts with good gtds.

Just forget shorter late registrations for now. First you need to have a good player pool and then late reg will decrease by itself cause gtd will be matched naturally. lets be pragmatical and do things that really mater.

You need to have more low/mid stakes with good gtd´s. I am doing a schedule and will share here with you guys but right now i just want to make sure we are in the same page and we understand what its fundamental and we cant skip.

You need 22´s turbo or non turbo with 5k´s gtd. You need 1.10 3 x turbo, 3.30 or 5.50 2x turbo with 4 to 6k gtd, 10+r with 10k gtd just as an example.

Now you might say: hey..those gts are too high, its a risk, we first need to have more players do have this gtd´s.

That is wrong. Its like people with some kind of phobia. They wait to feel better to face there fears...that will never happen, first they have to face the fears then they will feel better.

Its way better to risk some money for like to weeks till all the gts start to cover and see it as a marketing investment than having 1m´s gtd, lose 300k every event and retain zero players cause those who come from other rooms to play the 1m gtd wont be playing 22S 1200 gtd or 6r 2k gtd....

Look to the tournaments in the low/mid stakes area that you have in this Hi5 series, they are very good examples of what you need to have in daily schedule.

Some of the tournaments you already have also need adjustments in gtd´s and payout structures. Just as an example you have the 9pm 1250gtd 6 max. Its popular its not worth playing for a lot od people cause ends late and pays just ~300 for 1º. Reduce 2 min in blinds, once bountys already take money from prize pool, pay 36 places instead of 63.

I promise i will post here a suggestion of a schedule with satellites and some adjustments to what already exists.

Just my 2 cents bro.

Happy to see a few PLO8 games with 30 and 60 dollar buy ins, however, I'm concerned with them being KO Freezeouts, they won't perform well and will be removed from the schedule. Can they be non freezeout and maybe non KO? Or if they fail as a result of being Freezeouts, can they be re-added as Re-entry?

Hope the gtd on these "freezouts" are going to be decent or they wont run or be worth playing. When can we see the rest of the new schedule?

Actually I'd like to take this a step further and say that PLO8 is a weird game to put in KO format, and it really shouldn't have been made that way and also shouldn't have been made a freeze out/KO. In it's current format, it's almost certainly going to fail. I hope I'm wrong, I just can't figure out why you guys keep running PLO8 KOs (current High Give event I don't want to late reg because of the KO element. Otherwise I'd put in a 3rd bullet.)

+1

Loving the Hi5 schedaule! Hope to see a full 1000+ player turnout for the 50 50 50k and 420 main event.

Good luck today heroes.

Last Wednesday, Americas Cardroom’s CEO Phil and Tournament Director Dan had a live stream on our Twitch.tv channel to discuss proposed changes to the MTT schedule. It was well attended and a great way to get recommendations from our players.

Phil will be back on Twitch TODAY at 12pm ET to go over the proposed changes. This is a great example of what can happen when we all work together, so make sure to tune in! http://www.twitch.tv/americascardroom/

http://www.americascardroom.eu/blog/...le-discussion/

big kudos to Phil and WPN for not being idle and improving things in many aspects
hats off !!!

I know you guys don't want to risk overlays, but not having guarantees on the freeze outs is only going to cause them to fail. Why not put modest guarantees on them and advertise? There is definitely a market for them. I'm also disappointed that none of the current schedule was changed. No raises in the current guarantees and no new nightly's with good guarantees.

+1 to the above post. The schedule has not changed at all in any way. All that has changed is some on demand 1hour late reg sngs that will barely run or see 20-50 players. I don't see why these tournaments simply cant be turbos with decent gtds. Also please consider adding some new exciting daily/ightly tournaments. Keep the same schedule and add some new daily's/n's (ex 33-109r, 160 6max, 215 8max , 320 6m, 82 t). Please highlight them and name them something to remember (ex: FRIDAY FRENZY 109R). Gtds dont even need to be big (ex 109r 25k), just give players a reason to log on to wpn every day. Put them 2hours before the nightly 109 with 3 HR lr.

The schedule needs new additions as well as replacing the g160m. Step 1 was to remove/replace those tournaments, what is next?

Wait there were changes? I didn't notice anything of substance.....

"old schedule" + freezouts without gtds = new schedule?? oh boy...

This is just a test to see with the freezeouts. The new schedule is in draft stages. I think phil will be back on twitch going through it. We wanted to see how these go and then how we can implement these types into the new schedule.

Just to be clear. This isnt the new schedule. This is just additions to see if this is really what everyone is craving.

The new freezouts wil fail without guarantees. Make them all turbos with decent guarantees and watch them thrive. I myself will reg all of them above 11$ but still don't care about them as they will never see above 50 players and many will cancel. GTDS GTDS GTDS

As it stands they are merely on demand sngs. Thats what non gtd tournaments work out to be, recreational players wont play them.

I think your incorrect in your assumption turbos are the way forward. Not every player especially a rec wants to spend money in a tournament and potentially not get any enjoyment out of it. The odd one yes but this is proven if you look at the daily turbos that run.

In regards to adding guarantees. If these are successful and we see them being popular after the i guess trial period we will add what works with guarantees and change ones that dont. This is giving more tournaments and more volume for the grinder. Lets see how it affects the other scheduled guaranteed tournaments. We can debate after a week or two.

Everyone wants us to grow but the players have a big part to play and help us. Make these successful, make them work, change the schedule going forward to mainly freezeouts and the big10 then everyone is happy right?

We cant just take overlay after overlay as we have up until now really on more tournaments. This is the compromise for now.

Really liked what pagasses... had to say. Agreed with all that. Well put.

Now you might say: hey..those gts are too high, its a risk, we first need to have more players do have this gtd´s.

That is wrong. Its like people with some kind of phobia. They wait to feel better to face there fears...that will never happen, first they have to face the fears then they will feel better.

Its way better to risk some money for like to weeks till all the gts start to cover and see it as a marketing investment than having 1m´s gtd, lose 300k every event and retain zero players cause those who come from other rooms to play the 1m gtd wont be playing 22S 1200 gtd or 6r 2k gtd....

What pagasses... says here is most important. The midstake levels have to get built up and that will help the entire site flourish. You can't expect to crush a guarantee when its a 30+3 3k. If you doubled this guarantee to 6k and saw what happened I bet you would start to see it reach its guarantee within a few weeks. Its a smart investment to get more traffic on the site.

^ Or, if they did what you suggested, regs would just eat up the overlays for a little while until the tournaments were removed for leaking money for WPN, with very few new players as a result. I mean yeah that sounds very +EV to me and all but that's the reality that it'd be a very bad idea for WPN to put GTDs on a bunch of experimental smaller MTTs.

Personally I think most of what they're doing is smart, but I'm not too optimistic about freezeouts because I don't think most players care if it's a freezeout or not. I'm... kind of happy to have a few though. I'm very happy with the idea of adding freezeouts to SNC, but I'm not sure that'll be enough to make them succesful, since the smaller ones probably won't get much overlay between SNC grinders and MTT players. Bigger ones might. I've also already said my thing about KOs, but seriously, there are way too many bounty tournaments added. I guess KO is better in a freezeout environment than re-entry, though.

Want to put my 2 cents worth in. I want tournaments with NO guarantees and no late registration. or only an hour if you must. Just poker tournaments like the ones in casinos. Also, I like the regular payout schedule. An earlier remark was to reduce payout from 63 to 36, or something like that? No. I do not claim to be a great player. I want to have a chance to make the money. I have stopped playing the G60M that have a reduced payout schedule.

They don't need to all be turbos, but without a guarantee they won't gain traction. Recs and regs alike look at the big number in the lobby.

Wouldn't it be cool if there was a $50+5 20-30k GTD nightly?

Or make the Sunday 50k a 100k every week?

put in some deep stack turbos simgle gtds even if its just 50 people + the buyin will do good. $11 $500 gtd deepstack turbo.

Put in turbo the megastack turbos do well and will do well at all levels. No 1 wants to play a no gtd tourney for 3-4 hrs not knowing how many people will join.

no way they add any 109R. people with BR to play those dont even live in the US for the most point...

more satties to the sunday 115 would be noce. or even better a weekly 250K with a 500 buyin with satties throughout the week