Dear 2+2ers,

I play husng (hyper turbo games) consistently on bcp from late august 2013.
Recently, i d say from mid december, i ve noticed super slow action at hu sng tables also at mid stakes 60' - 120'.
I remember clearly that after the sng leaderboard was introduced the winning CEO talked about taking some action to balance the action at husng tables in the future if a consistent drain in the games was noticed.
I think that moment is now come!
I m gone from 70-100 games per day down to 10-40 games per day.
In the first place i thought husng exclusion from the leaderboard was a big injustice, now that the numbers related to traffic on winning poker are increasing the husng action has decreased compared to 3 months ago, i think this is an evidence of some distortion going on in the poker ecosystem of the network. My personal opinion is that husng exclusion from the leaderboard affect a lot action from recreational players.

I'd like to hear other regulars opinion and also the presence of some winning rep to try to find a solution.

Personally i was happy to play on this network but right now i feel husng players deserve something more, basically cash players have the beast, all other sng format have their own leaderboard... and us??

Thanks

I cant even get 20 games a day at $5 or $10 reg speed games

prove it.

also, show what games your previous opponents are playing now. at this point you just sound bitter without any evidence

Heads up players are one of the biggest drains on the poker ecosystem. In an industry that has had a shrinking deposit base for going on 3 years, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for extra rewards from any poker network as a heads up player.

It's just the nature of the business


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Kahn

What are you talking about, in a network that isnt tracked by sharkscope how can i prove what others are playing?

pokertracker or holdem manager 2. show your volume for november, then december, then january.

then screenshot the lobby during peak times to show if any of your action has allocated to new games.


all this will either prove or debunk your theory

I'm not interested in showing/posting any personal datas to you, winning_TD knows my screename and therefore has access to all my database of games.
I've already talked to him on skype about this issue and when he will post here im sure he will confirm the numbers about the games i've played in the previous months.

My observation is based on empirical datas and my experience at the tables after playing everyday (3-5 hours / day) from late August 2013.

i'm not interested in making this discussion personal with you in anyway, so if you have nothing more interesting to point out here i'll not respond anymore to you.

Thanks

Then your thread is a farce. Whats the point of this thread of you are not willing to post data analysis to back your statements for the world to see? Exactly my point, this thread is just all bark and no bite at the moment.

I prefer anything but husng's

While you may have a point that some data would help support his argument, you come off as needlessly attacking and extremely defensive for some reason.

I'm going to guess it's because you have a vested interest in the SNG leaderboards and don't want HU SNG's included. Not a reason to lose a civil tongue.


I'm interested to see what WPN support says itt, if they intend on responding here at all?

As you know, Carbon has a HU SNG leaderboard. There is a recent precedent for such a promotion on the U.S.-facing side.

you are right, i am biased. but at the same data could only help his arguement rather than just throwing assumptions out into the universe.

I agree it could help no doubt about it.

I think it's possible WPN might consider a HU SNG leaderboard. This would keep the leaderboards separate and you wouldn't have to compete with HU SNG'ers.

I wouldn't doubt that they've lost some HU SNG traffic to Merge/Carbon b/c Carbon now also has two SNG leaderboards (one exclusively for HU SNGs). Add in the HU SNG's being excluded at WPN and you might have two reasons for less HU SNG traffic.

Just food for thought WPN rep?

I am aware. Judging by it's success, I don't think WPN will be copying it.


Again, don't hold your breath...


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Kahn

+1 to this post from another $60+ reg

I know who OP is and ive heard the same thing from another $120+ reg.

Action has significantly slowed

If traffic for the network has increased while husng traffic has decreased, I see no reason why WPN shouldn't consider a husng leaderboard

I don't really think the logic of this statement is very sound as it is:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...5&postcount=61

But if husng action has indeed slowed (especially if in relation to sng traffic), from what he said there how can wpn ceo not at least consider it?