It just didn't seem like they were taking it seriously. Trist standing under the turret and dying with sums up, not banning properly, etc. I didn't see the first game so maybe this type of thing is standard for them but I was a bit surprised at the carelessness of some of the mistakes.

These conspiracytheories are getting ridiculous, there is still the chance that they lose against C9 and then lose in the tiebreakers. There is literally no reason to not take the match super serious.

And there was no chance for them to get the 2nd place easy if people think thats their plan. They get 1st place or they end up in a 3 way for the 2 spots and i doubt they want to take that chance

C9 over shield sets up 3 way tie, no clue how they break that

WS 1st, Alliance 2nd if C9 loses

Group C
SSB through with win in either 1st if beat lmq
OMG advance with win and SSB win vs LMQ potential 4 way 3-3 could happen, lmq over blue and Fanatic over blue

Lmq advance with 2-0
Fanatic eliminated with loss or omg+ssb wins

Lmq 2-0, fanatic> ssb means lmq 1st fanatic and ssb 1game playoff

If SSB> Lmq same as above but lmq/fanatic playoff

Lmq 2-0 and SSB beats fanatic playoff for 1st

So, adding even more to the craziness of the end of that OMG/fanatic game, apparently there was a gamebreaking bug that occurred at the end of the game. When khazix went to recall to stop the backdoor attempt by soaz, right as his recall went off he was hit by a kog maw ult by rekkles. Now, that in and of itself isn't that rare and i'm pretty sure it is intended to work that way- there is a channel time on recall followed by a small, almost imperceptible cast time. The channel time can be interrupted, but once it completes without being interrupted, the cast time cannot be interrupted by anything less than death. Where the bug comes in is that when Khazix got back to base, he gained both buffs from his homeguarded mobility boots. Meaning, he got a huge movement speed boost that allowed him to get to soaz faster, and he regened a significant amount of health that made it so that it would have been impossible for soaz to kill him quickly. We know that khazix was absolutely 100% hit by the kog ult because he had the little eyes over his head signifying that he was being revealed. If he was hit by the ability he should have been put in combat. If he was in combat then he should not have gained the mobo/homeguard buffs. Seems like a pretty clear bug, and considering how close fanatic came to ending the game there i think you have to say that it won the game for OMG. A riot employee tweeted that they are looking into it- i wonder if they will replay the game.

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For clarification, it appears now that he did not get his mobo boots buff- he only got the homeguards buff. I'm guessing that the homeguards are coded such that the buff activates whenever a recall is completed without checking whether the player is in combat or not (under the assumption that if a player has successfully completed a recall that they are not in combat).

Wow just watched the C9 vs ALL vod, how is no one talking about the vision bug / tiny wall that blocked the pink from seeing ALL's green ward in the bush going to C9's red buff that lead to Meteos walking in and insta dying. Very game changing that cost C9 their dragon vision which led to the next fight. How could the shoutcaster's not even notice this, the guy running the spectate flipped vision 2 times so we could see it.

Not sure how you got "conspiracy theory" from anything I posted but ok sure

I worry for alliance tho. They had a massive lead, but were fended off by shield for so long. If they didn't crush early game so much then I don't see them winning games against decent teams.

I think that was a result of them throwing a huge lead against the same team and that the team happened to be Korean overlords. If they played C9 the game would have ended much quicker.

They were fended off, but never came close to losing, they kept building the lead bigger and bigger

Never forget!

the god aspects of koreans are starting to definitely feel like its disappearing. there hasn't been one single dominating player this year at the Worlds.

Im not sure that the Koreans are going 100% just yet though. They are playing standard but havent whipped out any special strategies or fully focused on 1 team. They are just doing what it takes to reach the playoffs. Im not sure that fully applies to Shield but atleast to the Samsung teams.

Watching the replay and seeing how mad Monte was after the game is awesome. EU has really given Monte a huge middle finger.

Well never heard of this zefa guy. But dying in lane vs kog ulti with both heal and flash up isn't good. Shook played so well that game tbh and was the hard carry that snowballed all 3 lanes. So different to his elise game lol.

SSW has been totally dominant, dandy and mata are so far ahead of most teams. You can't ban the team out and they will destroy ban out players like wicked/shook/amazing/soaz

SSB has been pretty close to and is like 80% vs fanatic in bo5, they had a rough game vs fanatic but dominated omg and lmq

Shield has looked suspect which makes sense

If you pick rammus vs dandy ... good luck

I think you're giving blue a little more credit than they deserve. I agree about white, though. They are head and shoulders above everyone else.

Woke up to see Alliance won a perfect game against Shield? Very impressive, even if they played it the most boring way possible. If Alliance can beat Shield like that (almost twice since that's what Game 1 should have looked like), hopefully C9 can do it too.

On another note, that giant bug thread clamoring for a remake is pathetic. Homeguards proccing immediately upon a successful recall is almost certainly intended behavior, and it's perfectly reasonable IMO. Props to Fnatic for apparently not going on uber-tilt vs LMQ though.

well white played vs EDG twice who we aren't even sure is good considering they were struggling vs AHQ.

And dade is not the God he is said to be unlike faker. Of course they are still the two best teams in the world but its just their god's status withering down

1 bad game doesn't equal lack of god status they dominated the other 3 games and it's an otherwise very competitive group if they struggle tomorrow sure but they are going to win both easy

Dade isn't the lane bully faker is his team fighting is really strong

Also both teams are better in best of 5s than best of 1s

Faker had that zilean game White just banned it and destroyed them the next 3

to be fair, it does look like there was a bug and Khazix's homeguards shouldnt have activated because he took damage from Kogmaw while recalling

The small bit of reading i did in the threads show that homeguards don't activate if you take damage in 6 seconds prior to shop, riot said that khazix shield from whatever item he had stopped the damage, so homeguards activated, but the ult actually did 7hp damage

Although the idea behind that homeguard timer is the length of time it takes to recall, it isn't intended to prevent activation upon taking damage in the last moments of a recall

Yeah, this statement didn't help things either because it seems to be completely the wrong reason, thus making the other part of the statement (that it's not a bug) feel wrong as well. Honestly, the whole thing is basically people failing to understand how homeguards appear to be coded (to always proc upon successful recall). At most, it's a lack of clarity on the tooltip for not highlighting this exact case, but it shouldn't even be necessary to have because the whole point of homeguards is to be able to defend nearly instantly upon recalling.

So Cloud9, are they insanely brilliant or just ******ed with that team comp against alliance?