Removing the ability to dodge and duo queue would both help. (And it would further accurately drive down MMRs for players that troll and get other to dodge successfully.)

how would removing the ability to dodge help?

removing dodge doesnt bring down the mmr of trolls, it brings down the mmr of trolls and everyone who happens to be on their team and is a waste of 20+ minutes

e.g. Someone gets into champ select and trolls. Someone dodges, no one loses MMR on troll's team, no one gains MMR on other team. If instead the game is played out, troll and his team's MMR is reduced on average. It's a waste of 20+ minutes, but so is when someone quits a minute into the game. This removes the waste of 10+ minutes it can take to get into a game because someone dodges. The game is a lot more fun than champion select IMO, so more time should be spent there.

Brag:

Beat: Normals obv
Variance: Popped pentakill cherry! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LEAGUE OF ****TERS!

had a bot lane duo (last 2 picks) tell us they were smurfs and that they'd carry if we let them go support and adc

of course, we all know how that usually turns out

this game is too easy... i don't play for a month, come back - play 5 games - get promoted.

i'll be diamond soon

how is a waste of 20 minutes for everyone as well as a drop in elo for 4/5 players who dont deserve it (as well as free elo for players who may not have won) worth the extra 5-10 for another pick ban?

the game may be more fun than champ select, but games where you have to deal with people you KNOW are just going to troll and you'll either have to carry them, or do well only to get frustrated and lose, or play mediocre and lose since the troll lost his role, are all zero fun. majority of dodges take place when you know someone is going to ruin the game, people who dc from 1 minute in cant be predicted

the long penalty timer prevents people from game selecting only team comps they like, while at the same time giving people an out for the worst situations. seems fine to me

BOOM.
Just got pentakill with Yi in Gold 1!
2nd one in ranked. First was Akali.

i just owned a wukong so hard in lane with no jungler help as shen... 3-0 kills in lane.

i thought he was OP CHAMP counter to shen

not with the karak's 5th game shen skills

current playing 5s with Only Jaximus and some other fools

would stream but my internet is being bm

playing solo que after marathon poker session is so bad for my elo, dropped about 20 games past week

ak13 too good able to hang with the big boys in those games

otoh all i accomplished was convincing the enemy team i was a smurf for IWDominate

1 game from silver III promos!

Beat: I had one of the most annoying players ever in my last ranked game. He demanded to go jungle cause he had a "80% winrate" with jungle. Which was a complete lie obv. So he picked up Nauti for jungle while he was 0/4 with his last 4 Nauti games.

We started going 8/1 after like 10 minutes and team was working fine when he started flaming, berating and arguing with people for no apparent reason. Every time someone did the slightest mistake he was like "gg", "the throws", "report noob" etc. That resulted in 2 of our other team members starting to flame back, arguing instead of just muting the idiot. So team morale goes down, people getting cought cause they are typing insults, we are about to ****ing throw a safe win. Nauti started spamming surrender votes, he himself was 1/8 until then by the way.

Brag:

Variance: I carried hard. But I had a headache after that game, it felt like a loss and I kinda felt bad to win with someone like him on my team.

I think you're underestimating the average time spent between logging into league, and starting a ranked game, while overestimating the time spent in game with trolls. Removing the dodge will cause fewer people to troll with intention of dodging or getting someone else to dodge. Those that do, will be punished more harshly.

I think you're underestimating trolls. Since people CAN'T dodge, you will HAVE to deal with them, thus making their trolling "more epic."

This is a free to play game. People can level to 30 in a matter of a week or two. People are going to troll, the end. Some people would love for you to not be able to dodge, so they can actually troll you successfully.

Removing the ability to dodge is a terrible idea, and you should feel terrible for thinking that it is a viable solution for anything.

I'm not suggesting it will end trolling, but it will greatly lower the time it takes to get the game started and remove strategic reasons to be toxic in champion select. It will also help the accuracy of the rankings by making your MMR more accurate.

me & gryffes owning it up with annie brand bot

i think youre missing the idea that most trolls dont try to get you to dodge, they want you to play the game out and suffer. if you get placed into a game with a troll and you lose, your mmr likely fell exactly the same as the troll, making it likely to be placed with him again. how does this reflect a more accurate mmr? i also think youre overestimating the time it takes to get a game started. its really not that bad and dodges dont happen that often.

this post was refreshing

There are very few trolls that are committed to throwing the game from the beginning of champion select. There are a good number perfectly willing to do so to get what they want, whether it be a certain champ or a certain lane, whatever. If they don't win champion select, they'll encourage teammates to dodge by putting on revive/clarity or doing other things that suggest a dodge is a good idea. Some will do so knowing they're going to dodge at the end if they can't convince someone else to take the penalty for them.

It makes it more accurate because the troll's mmr is now lower, and five out of the nine other people in the game's mmr is now higher. It sucks to be placed with the troll, it's more likely he's going to be on the other team though.

One issue is that you can't report players until the end of game. They need to have a 'report troll' option either in champ select or immediately after so that there is at least the possibility of some form of punishment. If Riot had a low-tolerance policy on being unreasonable/trollish in champ select then they might at least be able to temp-ban enough to disincentivize the behavior.

7/3/13 shen with more farm than almost the entire team, pretty much equal to the adc

team makes an awful baron decision, i end up blowing all my energy tanking it and TF teles in and kills us all obv

"****ing noob shen why dont you taunt him?"

yeah man, taunt is totally free. i definitely wasnt using energy while tanking baron.

save those Qs obv, W by itself is cheap