its important that this game has a veneer of the hardcore

also a big design focal point of this game is innovation by common players instead of just pros (the game is terribly balanced every patch because of this), theres no way they would do anything to stifle that

Why not offer both? You can either queue with a certain role (and have to stick with the meta) or queue without a role and get in a team with other people who didnt.

That would for sure mean longer queue times though.

I think there are a ton of theoretical reasons to not implement positions in queues but in practice it would make it infinitely better no matter what you need to do to accomplish it.

There's already a place to try unconventional ****. It's called normals.

Ive really not had this problem very often in ranked even on my eu alt. People care a little too much, how big of a problem is this in terms of % of games

I don't even think this would make the game more enjoyable, or less toxic. It would not be addressing the root of the problem, just a symptom.

Toxic people will be toxic, and if it's not "BUT I CALLED MID FIRST" that gets them to rage, then it will be "ZERO GANKS MID", "BOT STOP FEEDING", or "/all REPORT MY NOOB TEAM PLS".

You're Diamond League, right? How much of your LoL playing time have you spent in Elo Hell? I would say the percentage of Bronze games that start out toxic right in champion select is ~35%. Games that start out OK but end up toxic because of blaming, whining, bitching and flaming is another ~40%. That's a solid ~75%. It is really rare that I finish a game without having muted one or more players.

Meh, I don´t mind in game rage. I just turn off chat.

I mind the fkn endless requeueing I have to do because someone trolls in picks and someone leaves.

Yup. Or they will lolking you in champ select and say, "omg u queued adc? You suck at adc"

I have 500ish games played below gold in solo que, not too many problems but that was s1 and there wasn't a meta. You say 35% of games that are toxic in select, how games do you actually have that have to be dodged/have two people mid/top?

i think it would be better to set a ranking preference order before you queue. when you hit the champ select screen, your role preference is displayed to other players. pick order can still rule the day, but it allows for flexibility.

Yeah that's not bad.

Naut soo good, get to enjoy him until he gets renerfed to junk

games tonight babes


also i played a bunch of games to reach gold last season and there was definitely nowhere near 75% trolling blah blah blah. maybe like 5-10%


also theres no elo hell

i made a reddit post with some of my ideas to improve champ select

wrote it up quick, so ignore any typos

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege...ect_that_stop/

Strictly enforcing pick order > call order solves all the problems. Riot should just be very upfront about that instead of the soft endorsement path they have taken.

Segmenting the player pool in any way or putting some sort of role preference algorithm on the backend would cause queue times to balloon to levels that would seem like an exaggeration. Not to mention it goes against the spirit of the game. The decision of what lanes/comps to play depends on details that you won't have before you queue.

Tough to assign percentage values to all of that. First of all, LOL sample size, and second of all, I don't keep a record about stuff like that. I would say 1 out of 10 games is a reasonable estimate for having a dude who is last pick, instalocking a 2nd mid, because "he called mid first".

I have given up on trying to talk reason into anybody. Too exhausting and obviously futile. I just don't talk at all anymore in champ select. I pick what's available when it's my turn to pick, and I let the raging just happen.

In game I keep chat to a minimum, too. When I support I tell where wards are, that I pinked river, etc. The rest can usually be done with pings. More often than not, when champ select was exceptionally toxic, I just mute all 9 other players from the get-go. Quite a peaceful experience.

Lol wings reported 2 of his viewers.
He made a custom game so he could do his A-Z top lane with viewers.

Basically, his team got shat, and the enemy is pushing and wing's team has 2 inhibs down. His team cannot and has not won a team fight. Team fight starts, 2 of his teammates die, they quit. Game will be over before they respawn.

He makes some comment about not leaving, and don't join if you didn't want to play. So he reports them.

Douche move or justified?

getting a lobby going come get on right now gogo

^^

get on for games plz

where are all the scrubs

lolsilverleague. lost 2 promo games because both supports had more deaths than kills+assists.

Wings is a d. Game was over who cares. It's a custom ffs.

I'm at promotion series for gold 3 now. Not sure if I'll jump from gold 3 to gold 1. I did lose 1 game in gold 3 so not sure.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/23995346#profile

Still getting around +37 per win and -13 for loss.

you should get a blog