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10-17-2011 , 10:36 PM
just played a pretty random game jungling udyr that turned out they went 2/1/2 so I couldn't only jungle,ww couldn't hold top and ended bot.



so from this screenshot it has nothing spectacular but....



red is damage dealt,purple is damage taken.
that basically means they no one win 1v1 and u don't hit like a truck either but since u last longer u hit a lot.

edit: I jungle phoenix;I tried tiger and don't like it and anyway phoenix is more fun,seems like u got a spell )).
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10-17-2011 , 11:08 PM
Hmm. I'm now leaning towards holding onto my IP for now and trying jungle Jarvan. His move set looks pretty fun but somewhat challenging. I imagine ganking will be tough. Either need to nail an EQ combo for the knock up or get in range for the slow from W. Although now that I think about it you can just use EQ as a gap closer to get in range for the W. And obv at level 6 you can ult them.
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10-17-2011 , 11:31 PM
Ok what do you guys think about this.... Sometimes you get a super passive defense happy team or a team who loves to chase down every champ for akill but dont push. No one pushes and they are scared of turrets. After getting frustrated I go and try to tank turrets to get their HP down...

Ok question is

Are turret Hp's worth more than say dying or giving the enemy gold. Turrets dont regenerate and without getttng into their base there is no way we can win. I see others with pretty stats at tthe end of the game but after a loss I feel these stats are meaningless and padded since they had no real late game impact. They can point to their stats and say "look you died X times" im like yea cause you guys would not push. what should be your mindset
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10-17-2011 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aK13
Definitely not the champ for you.
I dont own or will ever own him.. I would sometimes joke to friends or opponents "I didn't know Ellen Degeneres was character in this game" yea they dont like that. No pssy champs for me. Pussiest I play is Zillian but he is the man and cant really make fun of elderly. Keep you ashe annie teemo mumu etc
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10-17-2011 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JodoKast
Ok what do you guys think about this.... Sometimes you get a super passive defense happy team or a team who loves to chase down every champ for akill but dont push. No one pushes and they are scared of turrets. After getting frustrated I go and try to tank turrets to get their HP down...

Ok question is

Are turret Hp's worth more than say dying or giving the enemy gold. Turrets dont regenerate and without getttng into their base there is no way we can win. I see others with pretty stats at tthe end of the game but after a loss I feel these stats are meaningless and padded since they had no real late game impact. They can point to their stats and say "look you died X times" im like yea cause you guys would not push. what should be your mindset
Orchestrate split pushes imo.
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10-17-2011 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Priptonite
Hmm. I'm now leaning towards holding onto my IP for now and trying jungle Jarvan. His move set looks pretty fun but somewhat challenging. I imagine ganking will be tough. Either need to nail an EQ combo for the knock up or get in range for the slow from W. Although now that I think about it you can just use EQ as a gap closer to get in range for the W. And obv at level 6 you can ult them.
Your goal should not be to use the W. But when you EQ and a champ is there you almost have to use the W. Early EQ should only be used to farm weak minions or to help gang up on occupied opponent. You will put yourself in a lot of bad situations with it. W Slow means you are running away after using it which means you are prob in a bad position. W for the shield is prob what u want to b thinking. the increased attack speed because of his flag is nice... Only use it if you are commiting to killing a champ or think he will run from you. Lvl 6 R is awesome. Jarvan uses so much mana its almost silly so focus on his auto attack over anything else. Auto cast E somewhere close and try to last hit and/or harrass. Make sure you have a reason for blowing all your mana. Jarvan is very vulnerable if you don't get fed, farm, or get enough EXP

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Originally Posted by Priptonite
Orchestrate split pushes imo.
Cannot orchestrate these people.... Typically you find yourself with one is 15yr old ks pro tristana one is deathly afraid and one afk half the time. goodluck commanding that squad. Lets not forge the lvl 12 jungling skarner in his own world

Last edited by JodoKast; 10-17-2011 at 11:50 PM.
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10-17-2011 , 11:51 PM
I think I'm going to play Cho a ton this week, I've fallen in love with tanky builds of WW lately, and Cho seems like a beast in that kind of role

I believe amumu is a better tank jungle than WW too, so that's another one I want to play a fair bit

Last edited by bottomset; 10-17-2011 at 11:58 PM.
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10-18-2011 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Punch Dancer
fwiw i tried udyr and really hated him. not fun, didn't feel strong either. I'll take LS/noct any day of the week! ?!

rotation blows for me. scared to try jarvan, cuz i'll prob like him and buy him. I kinda love anyone that can solo top it seems.
then don't jungle udyr you noob

solo top udyr so beast

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Orchestrate split pushes imo.
Jodo's not even playing the same game
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10-18-2011 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JodoKast
I dont own or will ever own him.. I would sometimes joke to friends or opponents "I didn't know Ellen Degeneres was character in this game" yea they dont like that. No pssy champs for me. Pussiest I play is Zillian but he is the man and cant really make fun of elderly. Keep you ashe annie teemo mumu etc
dude you have serious issues
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10-18-2011 , 02:41 AM
lol sounds like the brazilian tier list
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10-18-2011 , 02:55 AM
lol just had a super legit jodo game. Went 0/11 with like 6 assists with Dr Mundo

Last edited by snowden; 10-18-2011 at 03:19 AM. Reason: obv got jodo shoes
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10-18-2011 , 03:04 AM
I really want to play a game with jodo now, to watch him suicide at a turret that still has 2k hp just to "wear it down".
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10-18-2011 , 03:08 AM
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I really want to play a game with less than 20 bb
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10-18-2011 , 04:00 AM

EZ amirite?
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10-18-2011 , 04:05 AM
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lol just had a super legit jodo game. Went 0/11 with like 6 assists with Dr Mundo
I will never live down or forget the Mundo Escapades...Winning games with style. Kills are for typical box thinkers. I can only imagine how id be doing if i had never invested that kind of time with him.

Misunderstood Mundo The Unintentional Troll (Childrens book still in the works) exploded this thread, lettuce be reality. The game owe me
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10-18-2011 , 04:21 AM
Anyways after playing Ezreal all week, I finally see why teams like him. The playstyles are fairly different, but Ezreal essentially has all the tools that Caitlyn has, though overall I think Cait is still the better champ.

Ezreal's Q allows him to harass and farm safely, much like Cait's long range autoattack. His poking range is huge with this spell though which is great for teamfights and pushing towers.

His E is a better version of Cait's. While Cait's E is used almost exclusively for escapes, Ezreal can escape OR use it to be offensive (get in range or get in a good position).

The tradeoff for the mobility advantage is that Ezreal's W is pretty useless early game, while Cait gains a ton of zoning control with traps.

Cait's ult is significantly better than Ezreal's, but you're sorta sacrificing raw damage/killing potential for AOE and global ult. I really think that Ezreal's ult is the only thing that kinda holds him back since I just don't think it fits all that well with him. Being global doesn't make up for the fact that the damage and scaling is pretty poor. If they made the damage physical or even just removed the penalty from hitting too many targets, it'd be much more useful.

Both champs drop off really fast during the late game, with Ezreal's dps being higher (because of the passive + Q spammage) but at the sacrifice of range/safety (Cait staying at max range and when you charge her, she just uses E/W to slow you and kite).

Cait still has that loltaricstun+trap combo that is so brutal.
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10-18-2011 , 04:49 AM
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I can only imagine how id be doing if i had never invested that kind of time with him.
probably pretty bad
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10-18-2011 , 05:58 AM
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probably pretty bad
Maybe, But at least better than your sour hater asz
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10-18-2011 , 06:01 AM
extremely doubtful
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10-18-2011 , 06:35 AM
I'm really tilting over bad communication during drafts.
It seems last pick always wait his turn to say "I don't play X".
Someone itt said last pick has no choice and plays what is needed.
But it never works like that(at my elo),cause people either can't play everyrole,or simply don't want to.
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10-18-2011 , 09:44 AM
team comp is not important man, honestly. Just win your lane and boss you team mates around thats all that matters
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10-18-2011 , 10:02 AM
Who is the best LoL player on 2+2? Come on guys lets be real!
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10-18-2011 , 10:04 AM
well is gotta a be a split between jodokastt playing his out the box mundo and cruzer

I'll give it to jodo co his creative thinking
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10-18-2011 , 12:14 PM
I'm failing at finding a good path for Jarvan in custom games. Guide I read wasn't kidding when it said you needed a really good leash I guess.
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10-18-2011 , 12:40 PM
I got forced into play support alistar last night. I got the best team i've ever had. the 5 of us could probably have gotten 2k together. Absolutely sick teamwork, skills, communication. I was like jizzing my pants. was like 1-1-17, we won in about 27 minutes
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