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Kalista looks... interesting.

see ya warwick. never going to be able to play you again .

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ww is going to be really good

I don't think the jungle is in a good place if diana is top tier she was a horribly designed jungler

Im scared khazix is dead hes not an AA champ has pretty low sustain with new items and seems they hit 2x harder probably rip

Zac and Sej at least fill a role well

Just played first game in new jungle, best jungle item for Nunu? I took Stalker's Blade as I didn't really feel like any of the other ones do anything for him. It's got bigger range than iceball so even easier and earlier permaslow.

Ww gonna be permabanned tho

That is a problem too huge range free cc could really unbalance things

Also since you need smite up it limits your smite in jungle

hahaha amazing

Btw tested, you can have multiple smites and jungler items per team. I'd imagine it is only going to be viable option for few top laners but still. Would be very nice to see some real teams try some double jungle comps.

Wait did Omni mean he'll never get to play him cause it'll be op or cause he felt he'd be awful??

Ok so if im looking at this right, at say lvl 8 which is probably the earliest level that devourer upgrade could be purchased, with a 0-stack devourer + skirmishers saber, WW does an extra 200 magic damage and 195 true damage on his ult which is going to destroy people on ganks since his ganks were already almost a guaranteed kill without the new items.

At lvl 18, assuming ~40 stacks on devourer and a wits end his ult at lvl 18 does ~1300 magic damage + 345 true damage and shreds 25 MR. Pretty sure he will be able to nearly 1 shot squishies with ult + Q with only 1 damage item.

Devourer seems like a lock to be nerfed ASAP.

+50% attack speed alone is ~1500 gold of stats, the 40 magic damage per hit is like 1450-1500 gold (maybe more, since its magic damage and now its harder to itemize MR, and im calculating it based off of AD value). I'm not sure how to value the stacking mechanism since its magic damage but AD is ~36 gold per point. So Devourer has ~3000 gold of stats without the stacking mechanism at all, which technically has infinite scaling, so late game with say 40 stacks its ~4500 gold of stats.

Warrior is a brutalizer with another 25 AD, 25 AD is ~900 gold of AD, so ~2237 of stats for 1500 gold

Magus is the equivalent of 2x fiendish codex + amp tome for ~2375 worth of stats but costs 1500 gold

Also feel like Juggernaut needs a buff because it is way behind in efficiency but I have no idea how to value tenacity. Its ~1652 worth of health and CDR for 1500 gold. Is tenacity worth 700+ gold it would need to be comparable to Magus/Warrior? Could probably use another 10% CDR.

Bored at work waiting to go home and play, doing maths, Grail totally blows now.

Grail+ Amp Tome: 3135g
80 AP
25 MR
+50% regen
20% CDR
1.5% missing mana per 5 secs
15% mana on kill or assist

Compare to:

Morello + Chalice: 3100g
80 AP
25 MR
+150% regen
20% CDR
1.5% missing mana per 5 secs
Grievous Wounds passive

Chalice seems like a meh item in general now unless you really need MR in lane. Grail is so bad that even if you get a chalice its probably better to go Chalice->codex->forbidden idol->morellos then even upgrading chalice to grail.

Chalice + Codex + Idol + Amp: 2855 gold
50 AP
+110% regen
20% cdr
25 MR
1.5% missing mana per 5 secs

Compare to:

Grail: 2700 gold
60 AP
+50% regen
20% cdr
25 MR
1.5% missing mana per 5 secs
15% mana on kill or assist

warwick ult+Q combo does 1500 damage at later level with devourer and skrimisher. he kills ur carry instantly

New jungle is so stupid, farmed 20 mins straight in a custom was barely lvl 11 wtf.

Managed to get 66 stacks in my first game of Jax with the jungle item. I imagine it`s pretty op with WW who can get 10 stacks in a teamfight ace.

Already seeing some multiple smite teams in high elo

Every stream I turn on today has a Warwick jungle it seems like

currently in a game with a ww who has > 100 stacks

He had 120 stacks by the end of the game, I was a cassio with 800 AP and a spriritvisage I destroyed him in the last teamfight had like 5 people attack me but healed for so much that we won. But jesus ****in christ that was pure terror. I was quite tanky(SV,stacked Rod and Rylais) but still could do nothing 1v1. His ulti took like 50% of my hp (over 3k) and then he got a **** ton of movementspeed from e and just ****ed me.

New shields at secondary turret is a pretty big nerf to karthus. Not sure if it's intended, but karthus early game is going to be even weaker now.

Also not sure about mages in general. Athene's price has gone up, but it's also more expensive to buy mr. Will wait until someone else actually does the maths.

kalista will be strong in competitive imo with the team comps u can build around her ult (like ashe/varus, but she has great mobility too). Not so sure in solo q since she doesn't seem that strong in lane.

Lots of playmaking potential on the ult but I think she'd be close to useless competitively in her current state.