OK, so first off, I was apparently using my own simulator wrong and had position swapped for most of my 6th street solutions, having to rerun a bunch as we speak. This doesn't affect all too much, just makes all the calculation shifted by a tad. Here are the correct answers:

MXF -3.531
XMF -3.531
FXM -4.155
XFM -4.155
BBX -4.999
XBM -6.734
BXM -6.734

You were in fact correct, it makes no sense to pair the T middle. Good call.

At first I thought putting 222 at bottom could be a smart play to eliminate any chance of fouling and maybe hoping to backdoor FL. But barring extremely bad luck should be able to pretty much stay out of harms way by playing T top 2 mid.

In reality I place 22 bottom and regretted it the moment I hit the checkmark.

It basically takes a ridiculous 3-card last street to foul from T-top 2-mid. We're talking like next street is one flush card in back, one useless card up top, leaving us QT3, KT52, 4-spades in back, and then KKT (without the K of spades), KT5 no spades. KKK, TTx, K55 don't foul us because either it has to include a spade, or even the ugliest one, K5, leaves us with 5s, better kicker, in back, 5s, weaker kicker in mid, QT3 up top.

Have at it.

In there any option besides aces on top?

A/Q/x
X/AA
X/x/AA

Depends on the value you place on not fouling based on opponents hand.

If this is a no brainer then I apologize, have still been purposely avoiding strat and math posts on pineapple (I do this for new games to avoid gameplay bias while working on my own approach).

Why would math give you bias
It would give you info

Yup. But I like to see if the conclusions I come to coincide with the math. Helps me work things out on my own.

At stage now where I am starting to look into the math and adjust play as necessary. Been crushing the game consistently against similar amateur opponents since I started playing, so trying to discern if it's luck or if I'm on to something.

Supid way I go about learning new games, I guess. Costs me short term but in end seems to work out. Prob not most efficient way to do things, but if it ain't broke...

I'll lay off posting these types of questions for a bit until I catch up. Don't wanna add to noise.

Ur just being silly if ur actively avoiding statistical knowledge
Simple as that

+1
This is true in everything!

Meh. I play low stakes till I start doing true DD. For $1/PT, I'm fine learning by trial and error.

Prob not most effective way to learn, but the methodology has served me well for 10+ years. It's not that I don't take the time to learn the math (or more importantly how to calculate the math) it's just that not knowing things sometimes frees the mind for getting trapped in convention.

Is it +EV short term? Hell no.

Is it +EV long term? Probably not, depends on olayer to an extent. But it's the best way (for me) that I am able to learn and absorb.

As it stands, am more than happy with my results so far. And not just for OFC, it's been my approach to every new game I've been introduced to.

YMMV

Hi,

In OFCP what would be the best setup if we're dealt the following out of position

4s 5s 2h Td 9c

Math is idiotic, obv lol

A coworker and I play for $1/pt w/FL. I find he fouls quite a bit more trying for FL so I'm winning more sessions playing conservatively. Usually I place for a flush on BTM row if possible, the +6 for him fouling and the royalties seem to add up. Although we do go +1/-1 quite a bit. Is the risk of fouling for FL really worth it? Neither of us seem to keep FL for more than the one hand. And is there a street where you will typically give up on the BTM flush for pairing up and not risking the fouling? We haven't played any Pineapple yet and both recently took up OFC. Thanks.

If we're OOP and dealt

5s 5c 6h 7d Qc

then which would be the best setup. I usually go for Qx/556/7 but was wondering if anyone would play something different.

Also would you put 557 a the bottom in position if villain has no 5?

Q-6-557

So if you pick a king on the first pull you'll put it in the middle?

As 2c 3h 9c Td

I play it as xx/A23/9T

Seems pretty abc to me but just feel weird to keep 3 in the middle so wanted to know if there is anyone who keeps it differently

Also if the suits were changed to As 2c9c Td 3d would you still set it up the same way or go for two flushes and the ace on top?

A-23-910

Traditional: x / 2h td 9c / 4s 5s
Pineapple: 9c / 2h td / 4s 5s

You absolutely need to rethink your line on this one. If you are dealt a starting pair that is not KK or AA, it should never go middle.

Traditional: Q / 6 / 557
Pineapple: Same

Tradtional: Td / As 3h / 2c 9c
Pineapple: Same

This one I honestly have no clue.

Yup makes sense thanks

Ok Villain acts first and is dealt 66JA5 and keeps

I'm dealt 6c 6h 3s 2d and 7d

I guess keeping 66 in the middle is the best option here but what else do I keep with it.

I kept x/6632/7

Is keeping x/663/7d2d better?

^btw keeping the pair in the middle here is the right move correct?

Not sure if this has been discussed before. I went through a decent bit of this thread and couldn't find anything about it.

If our setup is Qx/Axxxx/ and the bottom row is already done (with 2 pair or better) and I get a King then is it better to place it in the middle or the top and why?