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NL 2-7 simulator? NL 2-7 simulator?

11-27-2012 , 03:31 AM
Where can i find one?

playing HU. i raise 2476Q BB3b, i shove he calls and draws 1.

do i stand pat or draw?

pat right?
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11-27-2012 , 04:27 AM
Troutulator and easy break.
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11-27-2012 , 06:36 AM
I pat if I feel unlucky
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11-27-2012 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SickZac
I pat if I feel unlucky
lol?
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11-27-2012 , 02:58 PM
Draw. He usually has more equity if you pat instead. If you had a jack, it's a pat. I see why you might think holding a queen could be better. You might think he has a better draw than you. But with a hand as weak as a queen, you'll be less behind with the inferior draw than by patting.

http://twodimes.net/poker/

Vs. a nut draw:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=7431668
pokenum -l27 qs 7h 6c 4s 2s - 7c 4c 3s 2h
5-card Draw 2-7 Lowball: 43 enumerated outcomes
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qs 4s 2s 6c 7h 17 39.53 26 60.47 0 0.00 0.395
3s 7c 4c 2h 26 60.47 17 39.53 0 0.00 0.605

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=7431670
pokenum -l27 7h 6c 4s 2s / qs - 7c 4c 3s 2h
5-card Draw 2-7 Lowball: 1806 enumerated outcomes
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
4s 2s 6c 7h 828 45.85 969 53.65 9 0.50 0.461
3s 7c 4c 2h 969 53.65 828 45.85 9 0.50 0.539
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11-27-2012 , 04:32 PM
cool thanks. I know 0 about equities in this game but just intuition told me to draw so I did. Really just needed a sim to mess around with and you guys provided one. Thanks!
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11-27-2012 , 04:37 PM
oh wait actually in my hand i should have patted because villain had 2358 ...

(hoping troutulator lets me sim ranges instead of exact hands)
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11-27-2012 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by camz2895
oh wait actually in my hand i should have patted because villain had 2358 ...

(hoping troutulator lets me sim ranges instead of exact hands)
it doesnt, thats manual work.
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11-27-2012 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by camz2895
oh wait actually in my hand i should have patted because villain had 2358 ...

(hoping troutulator lets me sim ranges instead of exact hands)
If that's the result you got, you used the calculator wrong. Troutulator is triple draw by default, so you need to make sure the draws are adjusted to 1. And I agree, ranges would be awesome, but I pity anyone that would try to program that.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=7431775
pokenum -l27 2d 3d 5s 8h - 2s 4s 6h 7h qs
5-card Draw 2-7 Lowball: 43 enumerated outcomes
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
5s 3d 2d 8h 21 48.84 22 51.16 0 0.00 0.488
Qs 4s 2s 7h 6h 22 51.16 21 48.84 0 0.00 0.512

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=7431776
pokenum -l27 2d 3d 5s 8h - 2s 4s 6h 7h / qs
5-card Draw 2-7 Lowball: 1806 enumerated outcomes
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
5s 3d 2d 8h 860 47.62 946 52.38 0 0.00 0.476
4s 2s 7h 6h 946 52.38 860 47.62 0 0.00 0.524

You're 1.2% better off by drawing when ignoring your opponent's discard. If we consider it (much more annoying and time consuming to fully consider all scenarios), you're still 0.6% better to draw even if he throws away an out to your draw (the worst case scenario).

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=7431788
pokenum -l27 2d 3d 5s 8h / 3s - 2s 4s 6h 7h / qs
5-card Draw 2-7 Lowball: 1722 enumerated outcomes
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
5s 3d 2d 8h 851 49.42 871 50.58 0 0.00 0.494
4s 2s 7h 6h 871 50.58 851 49.42 0 0.00 0.506

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=7431789
pokenum -l27 2d 3d 5s 8h / 3s - 2s 4s 6h 7h qs
5-card Draw 2-7 Lowball: 42 enumerated outcomes
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
5s 3d 2d 8h 21 50.00 21 50.00 0 0.00 0.500
Qs 4s 2s 7h 6h 21 50.00 21 50.00 0 0.00 0.500
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01-20-2013 , 09:52 AM
its as if its triple draw on the last draw yea? so if u had a jack u would pat vs his 1card draw...and be favorite...but with a queen u break...well obv thats too simple thought process but i think it helps
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