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05-29-2022 , 03:50 AM

S0ck

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I'm shocked there is no general thread for this great game here, unless I'm looking in the wrong place - so I've created one.

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03-10-2023 , 11:06 PM

lemonPeel

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funnest game ever!

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03-10-2023 , 11:08 PM

chillrob

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This is my favorite poker variation. Unfortunately, much like this thread, it is very low in popularity.

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03-10-2023 , 11:20 PM

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Had to hit the subscribe button for this thread

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03-10-2023 , 11:21 PM

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I didn’t know you get subscribed simply by typing the word

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03-11-2023 , 12:29 AM

ninefingershuffle

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I hear it has been discontinued

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03-11-2023 , 12:35 AM

lemonPeel

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Where do you guys play stud 8? I play on americas card room and sometimes live at casinos, but this game is not spread as often as Omaha 8.

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03-11-2023 , 12:44 AM

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Where do you guys play stud 8? I play on americas card room and sometimes live at casinos, but this game is not spread as often as Omaha 8.

Live in casinos in certain locales and afaik never spread by itself. Would be with Omaha 8

most mid stake mixes with more than OE will often play super stud 8.

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03-11-2023 , 12:56 AM

lemonPeel

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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks

Live in casinos in certain locales and afaik never spread by itself. Would be with Omaha 8

most mid stake mixes with more than OE will often play super stud 8.

Very true, there is a casino like an hour away from me that has a super juicy stud 8 / Omaha 8 game. I think I may go play there tomorrow and try to make some $$. I think it is a 12/24 game with a kill.

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03-11-2023 , 09:22 PM

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It’s in the mix at Canterbury but mostly has been subsumed by SS8

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03-12-2023 , 01:23 AM

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S8 is my favorite game, but I hate superstud. Especially since someone decided to make the high card bring it in, which makes no sense since in all forms of stud it had always been the bring in was the opposite of the person who acts first on other streets.

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03-12-2023 , 12:00 PM

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maka2184

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Originally Posted by ninefingershuffle

I hear it has been discontinued

Doesn't Sat game include Hi Lo Stud (8 or better)?

PS: Great game played 3 handed mix with Asian Joe from MN and Sheseasy last year with copious amount of beer and gin tonics

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03-12-2023 , 12:56 PM

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The more important principle is that the high card is the weaker card to have, so it follows Stud and Razz in this regard

I don’t think it’s relevant that the high leads on all future streets

But I have to say I like the SS8, it’s way more action and more mistakes are made

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03-12-2023 , 04:17 PM

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I've heard that argument, but it doesn't hold water with me. The high card is generally the worst one in S8 as well, but the low has always brought it in. And I think the principle of a different player acting first in the first round of betting is more important. It even holds true for games with blinds instead of antes.
Also, I like that in S8 you can sometimes win a pot with a weak hand, by making others thing you have a strong one. In SS8, everyone generally starts out with a strong hand, so this can't really be done.

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03-12-2023 , 05:52 PM

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Think when compared with Super in S8 the situation is a lot closer behind the strength of a random hand containing an high up card vs that of a low card. Wish I still had propokertools available but what is equity in S8 between a king and a 3?

The other thing is mostly preference, but it’s probably more accurate to say that a lot of people think they have a good hand but they really don’t. I like winning big pots

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03-12-2023 , 08:32 PM

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We actually just started playing SS high and that game is even dumber than stud hi

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03-12-2023 , 10:39 PM

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We actually just started playing SS high and that game is even dumber than stud hi

Yeah I didn’t like it, I enjoy regular stud very much especially with a right sized ante

I also enjoy 4 card O8b more than five

But as far as Stud 8 goes, super size it please. It’s just so much more action

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03-13-2023 , 12:29 AM

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We actually just started playing SS high and that game is even dumber than stud hi

Yeah, have tried it, its a bad game. Everyone is terrified someone else has a monster and there's no action.

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03-13-2023 , 01:20 AM

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Yeah, have tried it, its a bad game. Everyone is terrified someone else has a monster and there's no action.

But this doesn't happen when you have played SS8? Any idea why the difference?

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03-13-2023 , 02:37 AM

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But this doesn't happen when you have played SS8? Any idea why the difference?

Split pot game where the hands run closer in equity and you have incentive to fight for your half of the pot. In stud high if you have the second best hand you are pretty far behind, in 8 or better that's much less the case.

Fwiw I also think regular stud8 is a better game than super stud 8, but there's no doubt that the super version has succeeded in creating action, its always the largest game in the mix by average pot size.

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03-14-2023 , 04:08 PM

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kisada

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ss8 turned me into a bigger nit than i already am and i hate it for that

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03-31-2023 , 12:15 PM

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3for3poker

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Bring in order for S8 should be 9/T/J/Q/K/8/7/6/5/4/3/2

This is the way my (very) old home game did it.

I play Stud 8 as part of the 18 game mix with 3 down cards. Not as crazy as 4 down, but it still creates a few too many big hands.

It tends to punish split low pairs with a high card, and destroys the value of a hand like JJQ. Not everyone has figured that out yet...

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08-16-2023 , 11:54 AM

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S0ck

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Originally Posted by lemonPeel

I used to play in a mixed hilo game like that at Harrah's in Atlantic City.

But that was years ago, before Hurricane Sandy flooded the whole poker room (its entrance/exit was on the board walk)!

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08-16-2023 , 01:18 PM

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I used to play in a mixed hilo game like that at Harrah's in Atlantic City.

But that was years ago, before Hurricane Sandy flooded the whole poker room (its entrance/exit was on the board walk)!

Harrah's isn't even on the boardwalk. Too bad about the flooding though, I liked the room.

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09-10-2023 , 06:53 PM

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S0ck

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Harrah's isn't even on the boardwalk. Too bad about the flooding though, I liked the room.

It's got its own boardwalk on the bay. That's how it got flooded...

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