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12-20-2016 , 09:06 PM
What are basic tips for ARCHIE Triple Draw?

This is a hi low three draw game with either:

8 for low and pair of nines for high

Or

8 for low and pair of sixes for high
......

This game is being spread more and more in a mixed gane format
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12-20-2016 , 11:27 PM
Assuming it's A-5, by default play it as if it were high triple draw unless you have a four-card 6 draw or three cards to a low straight flush. Pay a lot of attention to your opponents' strategies and take opportunities to get into pots where you're very likely the only one going one way.

If it's 2-7, go get a snack and come back when they're playing poker again.
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12-20-2016 , 11:47 PM
Tapir hits some important points. Be selective in your low hand selection as it's not a low geared game like other high/low

But have to nitpick one thing. If I'm going high with an AK flush draw you love other flush draws bring in there as opposed to a few guys going low. Playing inferior flush draws is major leak as is playing inadequate low hands. Can't just play 245 unsuited like you could in Ace to Five.

I have an Archie series coming to the 2+2 magazine starting with the February issue.
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12-21-2016 , 01:01 AM
I didn't mean to suggest you'd ever want to draw at a flush that isn't also likely the best low.
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12-21-2016 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Tapirboy
I didn't mean to suggest you'd ever want to draw at a flush that isn't also likely the best low.
Oh I know, that particular comment was advice for tucco
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12-22-2016 , 06:44 AM
I think you guys are right but erring a little nitty. Mediocre but playable steal type hands would def include three to a wheel, three to a six with an ace, four to a seven with a gutshot, bad four flushes.

Would love advice on dealt two pair type of hands they are so gross
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12-22-2016 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
I think you guys are right but erring a little nitty. Mediocre but playable steal type hands would def include three to a wheel, three to a six with an ace, four to a seven with a gutshot, bad four flushes.

Would love advice on dealt two pair type of hands they are so gross
Oh yeah would definitely play all of those in a steal position. My comments were geared for multiway pots which a lot of them are. Think the biggest leaks are coming in for three bets cold with ten high flush draws or 245.
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12-22-2016 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
I think you guys are right but erring a little nitty. Mediocre but playable steal type hands would def include three to a wheel, three to a six with an ace, four to a seven with a gutshot, bad four flushes.
I just... if you're in stealing situations basically ever, this game shouldn't be in the mix. The only way this is a worthwhile game at all is if it's producing lots of big multiway pots. Even then it's pretty poor.

Edit: thinking a little bit more about steals, if you are stealing you should be weighted pretty heavily to high hands, or you're giving a lot of value to a BB who will defend 100%.

Last edited by Tapirboy; 12-22-2016 at 05:25 PM.
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12-22-2016 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tapirboy
I just... if you're in stealing situations basically ever, this game shouldn't be in the mix. The only way this is a worthwhile game at all is if it's producing lots of big multiway pots. Even then it's pretty poor.

Edit: thinking a little bit more about steals, if you are stealing you should be weighted pretty heavily to high hands, or you're giving a lot of value to a BB who will defend 100%.
You are dealt nines or better 27% of time, 4 flush around 4% of time, then also high straights draws. The % of lows is not as high so it may be around a 2 to 1 ratio.

BB defending 100%? Doesn't seem like a value play
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12-23-2016 , 03:52 AM
A pair of jacks is a hard hand to play vs someone smart. Low hands have worse equity heads up but play better
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12-23-2016 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
A pair of jacks is a hard hand to play vs someone smart. Low hands have worse equity heads up but play better
Well you don't have to let someone know that you have jacks or any other pair.

I agree to a certain point regarding low hands. But was kind of eye opening to me that a pair 99-KK has around 55% equity vs a pretty strong 2346 and AA has around 58%. So those equities would be more lopsided versus something like 234.

Good low hands do play well but obviously not as well in other hi/lol games so I think players tend to over rate them. 2346 can only beat a big pair by making a straight. Can't make two small pair. Can't keep a low and freeroll. And what are you going to do against a player who just goes to showdown with a big pair? Can't really exploit that in a limit game.
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12-23-2016 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
. And what are you going to do against a player who just goes to showdown with a big pair? Can't really exploit that in a limit game.
Get dealt 2 pair
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12-23-2016 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon_locke
Get dealt 2 pair
Obviously but that's not what we are talking about here, we are discussing the play of low hands. Besides a high pair vs two small pair is essentially a 50/50 coin flip
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