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08-02-2016 , 08:13 PM

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JimHalpert

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that was going really well too

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08-02-2016 , 08:14 PM

#46727

Mrtrebus

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Dolph comes across much better pissed off

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08-02-2016 , 08:14 PM

#46728

JimHalpert

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theres really a lot of value in not watching smackdown at all just to avoid bray

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08-02-2016 , 08:15 PM

#46729

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AMERICAN ALPHA HYPE

i hope revival comes up soon. they are great foils to AA

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08-02-2016 , 08:16 PM

#46730

darO

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Wyatt winning would be hilarious

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08-02-2016 , 08:16 PM

#46731

LKJ

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That's a ridiculous match for Dolph to accept, and I do hate the template of "double-dog dare the babyface and the face has to accept because good is dumb." But with that said, before the Wyatt interruption I was thinking that they really need Dolph to catch fire and notch multiple big wins between tonight and SummerSlam to sell the push and make him as believable of a challenger as possible, so I don't mind them manufacturing that setup for it.

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08-02-2016 , 08:17 PM

#46732

darO

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Im a Deantractor, but Supremely Confident Dean Ambrose seems to be a damn good character

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08-02-2016 , 08:18 PM

#46733

JimHalpert

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but yeah, that promo was really good. its amazing that going:

- take people
- make them want to win
- make them show emotion about wanting to win
- make it seem like it matters if they win

and suddenly people are a lot better on the mic

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08-02-2016 , 08:19 PM

#46734

JimHalpert

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+1 dar0

the response of the calm "no youre not. youre not going to do any of that and its not because they are holding you back. its because youre not as good as you think you are" was perfect

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08-02-2016 , 08:21 PM

#46735

darO

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Daniel Bryan is getting exposed something fierce in these backstage segments

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08-02-2016 , 08:22 PM

#46736

LKJ

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Originally Posted by JimHalpert

+1 dar0

the response of the calm "no youre not. youre not going to do any of that and its not because they are holding you back. its because youre not as good as you think you are" was perfect

I do think this sort of cut both ways. I mean, for my entertainment, I really enjoyed it. It's problematic because, in kayfabe, Dolph really is a loser who isn't a threat and certainly won't take Dean down. It was great at building the match, but was a lot less great at building the non-credible challenger.

That's why I do like that they also set out to hopefully have him notch some big wins over the next few weeks, starting tonight.

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08-02-2016 , 08:22 PM

#46737

darO

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Sweet, time for a good lucha thing

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08-02-2016 , 08:23 PM

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darO

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God Mauro's pop culture references drop him down about 9 notches.

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08-02-2016 , 08:25 PM

#46739

darO

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Who is this guy and where is Carl Weathers? - Daniel Bryan

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08-02-2016 , 08:25 PM

#46740

LKJ

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Originally Posted by darO

God Mauro's pop culture references drop him down about 9 notches.

Yep. JR set the example of how to be self-aware about being unhip and actually how to use it to your advantage. Mauro seems to come from the Michael Cole school of saying "yeah boyyy" when Flava Flav shows up.

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08-02-2016 , 08:33 PM

#46741

darO

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So is Corbin's gimmick "Guy who never loses but also never wins?"

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08-02-2016 , 08:36 PM

#46742

moorobot

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The pop culture references basically wipe out Mauro's main value, namely making the matches seem paramount.

Meltzer was talking just yesterday about how WWE has people find a bunch of pop culture references and just insert them into the announcing and promos.

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08-02-2016 , 08:37 PM

#46743

darO

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He said on an AMA that he's a huge pop culture junkie, so these references might be legitimately on him.

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08-02-2016 , 08:41 PM

#46744

JimHalpert

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lol thats a brilliant use of eva marie

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08-02-2016 , 08:41 PM

#46745

darO

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I'm like 99% sure this is not a shoot

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08-02-2016 , 08:46 PM

#46746

LKJ

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Hope they got Reno Riggins and Mike Bell to face AA next.

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08-02-2016 , 08:47 PM

#46747

JimHalpert

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Originally Posted by LKJ

thats a good point. i was a bit shortsighted and was excited about them building this specific match but it does hurt long term if we get that into ziggler just losing (which he is right)

ALPHA TIME

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08-02-2016 , 08:49 PM

#46748

LKJ

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They really don't have enough tag teams on SD to be treating Vaudevillains as completely irrelevant jobbers.

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08-02-2016 , 08:49 PM

#46749

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i dont mean to do the whole "compared people to people in the past and say they are as good" thing all the time, but Alpha legit reminds me of worlds greatest tag team and i mean that in the absolute best way possible. they were my favorites for ages