That top rope AA was pretty legit.

BORK!!!

BORK PLS

"Both these men are dead meat!" is the best thing Cole has said in his career.

BELT IN HAND

I love this so much.

Heyman standing with the belt over his head is the best thing ever.

J&J security cheering Rollins on as he walked out of the cage was A+.

"DIG DEEP!!!"

"ONE MORE STEP!!"

"YESSSSSSSS!"

Someone needs to Jericho that spiked hair with tips was never cool.

The main event was great. It left us on a cliff hanger with Heyman/Lesnar/Rollins. Raw should always end on a cliff hanger, but rarely ever does. This was great.

Just read the rundown, show sounds like complete garbage except maybe the finish (setting aside the fact that it was a rematch from Sunday).

Putting Roman with Big Show will keep the crowd from rooting for Roman's opponent and will make him look good in comparison. Him keeping the Shield music is intelligent also because the crowd associates him with that greatness. Unfortunately these things just make it more likely the push sticks and they have more invested in him when ultimately it fails and he doesn't turn into the next big thing.

Finding a way to make him successfully over is better than forcefeeding horribly speaking Samoan Cena or outright giving up on him I guess

Fuuuuuuck this.

No point in a full write up, because there's no point in judging the individual matches or segments. This was just "we only have one idea, and it's just Brock showing up".

Jericho was terrible. Was he 6? It was all poop jokes and what, laughing at the idea that Lana and Rusev might like each other? Bullying Paul Heyman for sport? I'd buy that he was being heelish because we knew his comeuppance was coming later, but that's not how the WWE works.

After a PPV so ****ty it put me to sleep I was hoping that last night would be a sign that the WWE is going to start trying again, and this felt like anything but that. Jericho out there reminding me how warped the WWE's idea of morality is was such a massive turnoff.

That, and the time spent trying to so hard to make gimmicks anybody the least bit in touch would have realized wouldn't work (Fandango, New Day*) it just feels like Vince has no ****ing clue what people want, and that's a hard thing to get excited about. (The announce team included, who are really getting close to making the shows unwatchable- who for a minute buys Cole's reaction to New Day).

The thing I love about wrestling is how it's a vehicle for great storytelling. Right now the WWE isn't even trying to tell stories, and really haven't since Survivor Series (and even that just took a bunch of people who use to have individual stories and shoved them into one boring one they didn't bother to finish). There's been no depth to anything, and no effort whatsoever put into building any.

So Brock showed up and beat up some people, and we'll probably have a good story with effort in it, but half of that story is still boring ass John got a little gender normative in dumb ways last night Cena. The other stories we have are "yet another guy wants to right Rusev" and "A less engaging Miz story than the one with Sandow).

*- holy **** Xavier Woods is trash. This guy is getting a big push when he can't work for **** and Cesaro is sitting in the doghouse because he said the obvious thing every fan is thinking, it's amazing.

Sounds to me like Jericho was playing standard wwe face

So has wwe done anything with ziggler's SS momentum besides give him the jobber belt?

And has sting even been mentioned on tv besides the slammies?

Right- which is ****ing awful. HEY MAYBE LOOK AT HOW THE GUY WHO JUST PUT ON THE DAMN MATCH OF THE YEAR DOES IT? THE GUY WHO EVERYBODY ACTUALLY LOVES? SEE HOW HE's JUST ACTUALLY NICE TO PEOPLE AND WON DESPITE BEING NICE?

Jericho was especially awful in the bit with Lana and Rusev. We're really making fun of them because they're dating? That's a negative? It's just so incredibly immature, and immature in a way where you'd want to send your kid to the corner if they acted like that. Jericho is such a ****ty little brat.

Yeah- they've mentioned sting a bit because they're doing one of those weird WWE things where they hammer home that he's "THE VIGILANTE STING". I think they've actually done a pretty good job of referencing him and keeping him in the public eye without showing him.

They haven't done anything with ANYBODY's momentum. Even Mizdow has been directionless as of late.

How have years of steroid use not killed Vince yet?

Agree with everything Dids has just posted. Jericho is ****ing awful. I feel ashamed that I used to consider him one of my favourites. He has D list celebrity written all over. The bad clothes, the haircut, the cliche tattoos from when people thought Ed Hardy was cool. It's amazing that someone can out corny Cena.

Dids nailed it with the Rusev and Lana stuff. That was insulting. Rusev and Lana have done extremely well to make the best out of terrible booking. All of his programs have started with some random guy not liking him. He is a beast. He should be the one challenging people and beating them. Oh and **** Ryback and anyone that likes him.

Ambrose should have been Cena in the SS feud. He was the one who had beef with the authority and Seth. Everyone popped hard at him whenever he attacked Seth because they believed him. It was the Stone Cold/Owen Survivor Series build all over again. Then we're supposed to believe that over night he's over Seth and all he cares about is Bray now. That's lazy and it was all just to use the hottest guy in the company to get over Bray. Bray is stale with no depth or motivation. "I'm crazy because I say random dumb ****" doesn't take long before it gets old.

New Day is ******ed as well. The early reports of them coming in and being heels sounded interesting but nope, they're just 3 black guys that clap their hands and smile. I guess being black is their gimmick.

There's just so much wrong with the product right now and nothing really right about it apart from NXT. Ziggler gets the IC title, loses it in a way that keeps him strong, gets elevated at a big 4 PPV and then wins the IC title again. Luke Harper just hanging out with bad guys because he's a bad guy is stupid as well. Cesaro.

the new day team is extremely racist... black stereotyping truly is their gimmick. i don't see how WWE is thinking this gimmick is going to get them over. The shots of the crowd with like 2 people being interested were cringe worthy

im rooting for the wwe to not half measure their racism. Take 3 white wrestlers, say, sheamus, big show and adam rose, have them be 'the old day' and have a match at a PPV where if new day loses they have to be old day's slaves