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09-12-2016 , 11:11 PM
That was a really good match before the nonsensical ending.
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09-12-2016 , 11:11 PM
1. was that a top rope muscle buster from ko or am i mistaken?

2. RURU CRUSH

3. i think if you took reigns to a parallel universe completely as is where the people had no knowledge of his previous failure of a push, he'd get cheered pretty hard. dude's been putting on some great matches

Last edited by JimHalpert; 09-12-2016 at 11:18 PM.
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09-12-2016 , 11:14 PM
It's more of a super fisherman's plex/PerfectPlex.

https://youtu.be/QbMBJl9dWQc?t=110
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09-12-2016 , 11:14 PM
1. More of a middle rope fisherman buster

2. RUSEV MACHKA

3. If only they turned him heel 18 months ago, he'd be a legit megaface right now.
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09-12-2016 , 11:17 PM
Rusev is the best.
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09-12-2016 , 11:19 PM
ah ok, thanks on 1. my bad
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09-12-2016 , 11:57 PM
I'm glad they are resuming the reigns rusev feud and keeping roman out of the title match
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09-13-2016 , 12:21 AM
They made it really clear tonight that they're not going with babyface Rollins right now. I can't think of another true heel vs. heel PPV main event ever happening.
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09-13-2016 , 12:29 AM
I think Kane vs Undertaker had a heel vs heel main event in the late 90s. Styles, Rollins and Kevin Owens get cheered as much if not more than Ambrose and Reigns, and Reigns is booed more than any of them, so the usual taboo against heel vs heel is kind of pointless right now.
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09-13-2016 , 12:44 AM
I agree that it's not really a bad thing, though I'm frustrated at their apparent reluctance to turn Seth. Obviously this won't be a crowd-killer like Shawn Michaels vs Rick Martel.
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09-13-2016 , 12:56 AM
Not sure which was the bigger missed opportunity, failing to turn Rollins face when he came back from the injury, or failing to turn him face now.
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09-13-2016 , 01:10 AM
Are we sure the match is going to be Seth vs KO? Foley promised consequences.
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09-13-2016 , 06:20 AM
KO seems to get better reactions than Seth. Maybe KO is the de facto face in the feud?
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09-13-2016 , 06:47 AM
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Are we sure the match is going to be Seth vs KO? Foley promised consequences.
They already restarted the match, I thought that were the consequences.
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09-13-2016 , 07:01 AM
Restarting that match isn't much of any consequence for Rollins, but Roman and Rusev are clearly paired off away from the main title match now. I don't know what they would do if they pulled Seth out of the main event as a consequence for interfering. I suppose there's some sort of chance that they could insert Cesaro after he finishes his comeback in the Sheamus series, but I would expect that to just be to make it a three-way.

(And again, they need to stop having so many damn three-way and four-way title matches.)
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09-13-2016 , 09:23 AM
It would be awesome to insert Cesaro into that slot. Especially after the fans got so invested in the best-of-7 series with Sheamus. Fans will be aching for him to be in the main event! I mean, The Universe.
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09-13-2016 , 10:46 AM
I know Hart was always face in Canada but in the States the Montreal Screwjob was two heels.
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09-13-2016 , 11:54 AM
I love Cesaro but I feel like he's been completely overexposed and it's hard to give a **** about anything he does now

He's basically the new Ziggler.
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09-13-2016 , 11:56 AM
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I love Cesaro but I feel like he's been completely overexposed and it's hard to give a **** about anything he does now

He's basically the new Ziggler.
I echo this semtiment
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09-13-2016 , 12:24 PM
He's quite a bit better than Dolph in the ring, but I agree that he hasn't been interesting for a while.
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09-13-2016 , 12:48 PM
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No, no, no. Do not mention SD on Raw.
Assuming you're referring to Becky Lynch reference, I think it was fine in this instance. Since adding the two belts on SD, there's no longer really a WWE Womens championship belt. They are transitioning to referring to Charlotte as the "Raw champion".

I never thought I'd say this, but, SD Womens divison > Raw's right now. Charlotte is phenomenal, but RAW really has no idea what it's doing with their women right now. That segment was a mess, and the whole Dana Brooke thing is going to have a disasterous payoff. The audience cares 0 about her right now. SD has less talent, but the booking has been stronger.

Off topic, but does Sasha Banks have some sort of lisp/speech impediment? I never noticed it before but in her promo she kept pronouncing her E's really strange.
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09-13-2016 , 02:12 PM
So we complain when they turn a guy babyface and take away all of the qualities that made him interesting or "cool" in the first place. I absolutely love that they're not immediately changing Rollins' personality drastically. It should be a subtle transition with minor changes that hopefully allows him to retain most of the properties that made him so popular in the first place.
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09-13-2016 , 02:12 PM
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Assuming you're referring to Becky Lynch reference, I think it was fine in this instance. Since adding the two belts on SD, there's no longer really a WWE Womens championship belt. They are transitioning to referring to Charlotte as the "Raw champion".

I never thought I'd say this, but, SD Womens divison > Raw's right now. Charlotte is phenomenal, but RAW really has no idea what it's doing with their women right now. That segment was a mess, and the whole Dana Brooke thing is going to have a disasterous payoff. The audience cares 0 about her right now. SD has less talent, but the booking has been stronger.

Off topic, but does Sasha Banks have some sort of lisp/speech impediment? I never noticed it before but in her promo she kept pronouncing her E's really strange.
You have Sasha and Bailey. Why the hell are they even teasing a Dana Brooke face turn that absolutely nobody is asking for?
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09-13-2016 , 02:16 PM
In my head, it feels like Dana just got on the main roster by helping Charlotte. Why turn her? Just cuz they need a new challenger? and the new challenger not being Bayley.
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09-13-2016 , 02:16 PM
Can only speak for myself, but Rollins's heel personality has never been cool or interesting to me. He plays as the generic obnoxious guy and most of his talking segments are crap. Nearly 100% of him being interesting is his ringwork. So many wrestlers are so markedly better as heels than as faces that it feels like he's monopolizing one of the top heel spots without providing a lot of the stuff that makes heels so great; he might as well go face, since he won't lose much of anything.

I do agree with the point that wrestlers shouldn't just drastically change overnight, but it doesn't seem like they're starting a slow-burn face turn to me. I could be wrong about that.
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