It's without question one of my personal favorite PPVs ever.

Yes you are.

This whole smackdown episode is like a list of failures. XFL. One Billy Gunn, RTC, Haku

****, how did poor Haku get lumped in with those other things?

Fine, 2001 Haku

To be honest I had forgotten that there was a post-Meng active wrestling era for him.

Look at these clowns UT and Kane, don't they know you can't successfully attack a samoan's head?

Same here, that is why he got lumped in with the rest

Lol.

Kurt Angle wins *Glass shatters, Disturbed plays* Makes sense

watched a diesel/bret cage match last night and it mostly sucked. diesel has like 4 moves he can execute so sticking him in a cage really doesnt do much. then the undertaker comes through the ring and drags diesel under with him, at the end. and bret climbs over. so "blah"

also watched a macho man/warrior match from wm7 and it was surprisingly good, especially for the length. i would recommend it.

im looking for an hbk vs diesel title match. bret said that even tho shawn had lost the match, he knew diesel was "done." think he meant they'd have him drop the belt pretty soon. idk i cant find the one he was referring to tho.

btw earl ****ing hebner ruins the end of every match with his long, dragged out 3 count. it takes the life out of the building for a second and ruins a proper crowd explosion. the crowd reacts better to a somewhat quick count, and his are so slow the crowd counts aloud with him "1......... 2........ .........3."

Diesel /Shawn was probably WM XI

Diesel vs. HBK at WM XI was okay but not great. Diesel vs. HBK at IYH in May '96 is Kevin Nash's best match easily just because HBK kills himself to put on an awesome show.

the latter has to be the one bret was talking about. was shawn wearing silver and black (or maybe dark blue?) tights?

I remember a lot of mundane ****, but I must admit that I have no idea what color of tights Michael was wearing in that match.

Oh, WM XI was when Diesel was champion though. The one I'm referencing that's actually worth watching is when HBK had just won the title. It was Nash's last match before heading to WCW.

may '96 iyh is shawn vs bulldog.

ok i have wm11 on now, pam anderson looked good back then

Alright, April '96 I Guess? It's the first PPV after WM XII.

it has to be wm11, i think you were right the first time. bc diesel was the champ going in.

btw theyve added some 1994 raw episodes!

Anyway like I said, I wouldn't really seek out the WM XI match, but it is watchable I suppose. A person can pretty quickly hack out all of the footage in Kevin Nash's career worth watching in less time than it takes to watch a Disney movie.

i just wanted to see it bc of bret's comments. he said shawn was so good in defeat he could tell diesel was close to done holding the belt and shawn was ascending.

Well it's true that Shawn pretty much stole the show that night and WWF ended up turning Shawn face the next night. Not sure if that was planned before the Mania match went as it did.

With that said, Nash kept holding onto that ****ing belt for another seven months until Bret finally took it away from him, so it wasn't too immediate of an effect on Nash's title reign. That reign basically doesn't have a rival for worst world championship reign ever when you factor in how ****ing long it went on.

maybe bret was hindsighting then.

Still forever bitter at WM11 being the only WM I've attended, and it being by far the crappiest one ever (WM9 sucked, but at least it had a then-fraudulent feel-good moment with Hogan winning the belt, the Doink-Crush match being interesting, and Steiners-Headshrinkers).

Anyone watch the Montreal Screwjob PPV since the Network came up (Survivor Series '97). Have seen the highlights on youtube, but is it worthwhile?

The Austin-Owen match on that show is nothing. The Bret-HBK match is alright. I don't remember much else.

Did you watch Canadian Stampede?