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09-03-2009 , 09:34 PM
Daniels cutting an awesome promo on TNA right now. This new direction for TNA is really interesting, it's been an awesome show up to this point.
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09-04-2009 , 03:19 AM
Anytime AJ Styles wrestles twice in one night, its a good TNA show.

But throw in Homicide vs Hernandez, Sting vs Hernandez, very little Main Event Mafia and a Women's division that keeps getting better and TNA is staring to look like 2005 again, which can only be great news for the company.
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09-04-2009 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Pablo Gutierrez
Anytime AJ Styles wrestles twice in one night, its a good TNA show.

But throw in Homicide vs Hernandez, Sting vs Hernandez, very little Main Event Mafia and a Women's division that keeps getting better and TNA is staring to look like 2005 again, which can only be great news for the company.
What am I missing about Hernandez? I just don't see him being as good as a lot of other people do. He's just a big power guy. He stumbles on the mic in both of the languages he TRIES to use.

I just don't see it.
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09-04-2009 , 06:32 AM
His size dosnt really handicap him in the ring. He can do a lot of high flyer stuff.




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But then again im Mexican, so im a bit biased towards him.
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09-04-2009 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by I_AM_EVIL
What am I missing about Hernandez? I just don't see him being as good as a lot of other people do. He's just a big power guy. He stumbles on the mic in both of the languages he TRIES to use.

I just don't see it.
He's agile for a big guy and he's got a cool moveset. I always thought LAX had a ton of potential. The first TNA PPV I saw was BFG 2006 (I think), where LAX won the tag titles from AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels. The iMPACT leading up to that had LAX annihilating America's Most Wanted, including an awesome border toss by Hernandez to Gail Kim. Then they covered AMW and Gail with Mexican and Dominican flags and had some great heat going. They were great tweeners; they were beating both heels and faces, and their cause (illegal immigration) had fans on both sides. I think the week after BFG, TNA hired Russo. Russo had problems with Konnan, and LAX went from tweeners to heels and then lost their momentum.
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09-04-2009 , 11:31 AM
Nigel McGuiness signed to a contract (in principle, a la Danielson) with WWE.

WWE, we cant build stars but are more than happy to let ROH do that job for us.



Nigel i cant see WWE ****ing up, Danielson maybe but Nigel is set.
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09-04-2009 , 12:47 PM
Bring in Claudio Castagnoli, Larry Sweeney and make a little stable please.
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09-04-2009 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Nigel McGuiness signed to a contract (in principle, a la Danielson) with WWE.

WWE, we cant build stars but are more than happy to let ROH do that job for us.



Nigel i cant see WWE ****ing up, Danielson maybe but Nigel is set.
Wooow. Cool. Good to see Nigel make it to the next level. I remember the first ROH show I went to, Nigel vs Joe was the semi-main event.
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09-04-2009 , 02:42 PM
Catagnoli would be a great addition. Id also love to see the crowd shouting "he's very European" at a big WWE PPV He is also a great worker in and out the ring with a great look and gimmick. He could pretty walk into the company tomorrow, same with Nigel, and work at the upper midcards from day 1 with zero changes from his indy style. Danielson imo i think might struggle with being given a really crappy gimmick that he will struggle to work from.

I havent watched ECW much recently but isnt Tyler Reks running a terrible surfer gimmick and whilst i think he can work it short term Zack Ryder's gimmick will heavily limit him long term.

This is a very good excuse for Nigel to stop those jawbreaker lariats. He hits em with such force he has pretty much destroyed his biceps as his latest injury. Even though they are awesome to see.

Anyway, two great additions. Im curious about the degree to which Shawn Michaels has been involved in these signings. He has always been up on bringing in Danielson (he trained him) and it was like there was zero interest then he comes back, has made a statement about how terrible the company has been at building stars in recent time then the next month they sign two of the biggest indy stars in less than a week.
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09-04-2009 , 02:46 PM
wow ROH is getting fleeced! I don't think there's any chance Nigel will get ****ed up in WWE. Pretty sad that WWE have such a hard time building stars that they have to raid Roh. Nigel and Bryan better not end up on Raw, they need to be in Smackdown. I'm pretty pumped about wrestling right now. TNA last night was terrific with their new direction, and I'm actually looking forward to WWE now. I'm really excited about the latest acquistions. Not to mention great stuff from Roh and Dragon gate. Good time to be wrestling fan.
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09-04-2009 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pablo Gutierrez
Anytime AJ Styles wrestles twice in one night, its a good TNA show.

But throw in Homicide vs Hernandez, Sting vs Hernandez, very little Main Event Mafia and a Women's division that keeps getting better and TNA is staring to look like 2005 again, which can only be great news for the company.
Yeah I can't believe how good it was. I may have to end my boycott of TNA. I was actually glued for 2 hrs, just like when it was 2005 when TNA was awesome. Getting rid of Jarret and Dutch and his allies were the greatest thing. I still can't believe that Russo is still there.
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09-04-2009 , 03:47 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Angelina Love future endeavored from TNA
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09-04-2009 , 04:01 PM
Visa issues, so I'm guessing she would be back once that's ok
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09-04-2009 , 04:30 PM
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Catagnoli would be a great addition. Id also love to see the crowd shouting "he's very European" at a big WWE PPV He is also a great worker in and out the ring with a great look and gimmick. He could pretty walk into the company tomorrow, same with Nigel, and work at the upper midcards from day 1 with zero changes from his indy style. Danielson imo i think might struggle with being given a really crappy gimmick that he will struggle to work from.

I havent watched ECW much recently but isnt Tyler Reks running a terrible surfer gimmick and whilst i think he can work it short term Zack Ryder's gimmick will heavily limit him long term.

This is a very good excuse for Nigel to stop those jawbreaker lariats. He hits em with such force he has pretty much destroyed his biceps as his latest injury. Even though they are awesome to see.

Anyway, two great additions. Im curious about the degree to which Shawn Michaels has been involved in these signings. He has always been up on bringing in Danielson (he trained him) and it was like there was zero interest then he comes back, has made a statement about how terrible the company has been at building stars in recent time then the next month they sign two of the biggest indy stars in less than a week.

What do you consider "building a star"? I mean, besides ROH, what other company does that on a consistent basis? I'd say they've got a good start on John Morrison, The Miz, Santino Marella, Dolph Ziggler, Kofi Kingston, and Michelle McCool. Yeah, no main eventers if that's just what you're talking about, but it's not like they can take some guy with zero mic skills, low charisma, and an average wrestling move repertoire and make them a John Cena all the time. I think we'll see MVP and John Morrison headlining PPVs by this time next year, though.
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09-04-2009 , 04:31 PM
Wow, guess im gonna have to make time for TNA this weekend then. What was last week like, is it worth watching?

Only thing that could hold back Danielson and McGuinness in WWE is Vince. Guy is an ego driven douche who has a history of not pushing people if they werent "created" by him or in any way sleight him (which includes being on another show pretty much).

Christian and Gail Kim for modern times and going back we have Taz and DDP was a great example given he was one of the few WCW created stars who was completely buried when they bought out WCW.

Either way, cue some really "awesome" names like Evan Bourne and Scotty Goldman.
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09-04-2009 , 04:42 PM
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What do you consider "building a star"? I mean, besides ROH, what other company does that on a consistent basis? I'd say they've got a good start on John Morrison, The Miz, Santino Marella, Dolph Ziggler, Kofi Kingston, and Michelle McCool. Yeah, no main eventers if that's just what you're talking about, but it's not like they can take some guy with zero mic skills, low charisma, and an average wrestling move repertoire and make them a John Cena all the time. I think we'll see MVP and John Morrison headlining PPVs by this time next year, though.
Lol at Santino being built as a star. He is a career jobber, just being on TV a lot isnt what i mean by build a star. I mean take someone who is basically unknown and have them be capable of headlining a PPV. Some wont make it that far, but you need to start building everyone like they could make it and let the skill difference define where they end up.

They have built Kofi to a solid midcard status last year but he has show no real signs in moving up the ladder on Raw, Punk and to a MUCH lesser degree Morrison have been built well since the post WM draft and Ziggler has had a metoric rise, but thats pretty much it. Fwiw i say much less for Morrison as he hasnt really moved forward but a good solid feud will get him to the same level. Has the Miz been built, id disagree but i dont watch Raw a great deal recently. He had a storyline firing after repeatedly jobbing to Cena, i mean thats not building up a star.

Pretty much everyone else is where they were a year ago. When you have a policy where the top 4 guys never lose to the other 36 guys youre always gonna struggle.

Edit, forgot MVP. He is a near future PPV main eventer, but he was in a higher standing the day he got drafted to Raw than he is now. Thats not good.
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09-04-2009 , 05:25 PM
Look what I found on youtube. This is quite unbelievable actually.


Bryan Danielson vs John Cena

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf-kiUcAdVI
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09-04-2009 , 05:39 PM
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Look what I found on youtube. This is quite unbelievable actually.


Bryan Danielson vs John Cena

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf-kiUcAdVI
Wow that was a good match.

Bryan Danielson vs Nigel McGuiness

This was just brutally awesome. First Nigel match I've watched.

Last edited by Scary_Tiger; 09-04-2009 at 05:49 PM.
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09-04-2009 , 06:09 PM
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Wow, guess im gonna have to make time for TNA this weekend then. What was last week like, is it worth watching?
Very little Main Event Mafia, lots of great wrestling (AJ and Hernandez wrestled twice), awesome promo by Daniels to Samoa Joe about how the X-Division used to be the focal point of TNA and in 2005 Daniels/Joe/AJ X-Division title was the main event (what made it awesome was because you KNOW Daniels and Joe really believed every word he was saying, that it was true LOL). The whole show was built on making new stars. Very fine TNA show (can't believe I said that)
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09-04-2009 , 06:26 PM
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Wow that was a good match.

Bryan Danielson vs Nigel McGuiness

This was just brutally awesome. First Nigel match I've watched.
Such an awesome finish.
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09-04-2009 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 4thstreetpete
Look what I found on youtube. This is quite unbelievable actually.


Bryan Danielson vs John Cena

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf-kiUcAdVI
1:44, i love that spot and ive seen Bryan use it a few times, shocked he was doing that all the way back in 2003.
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09-04-2009 , 09:25 PM
God. CM Punk is getting like 1970's Memphis heel heat, the look on some of the fans face when he came out tonight was priceless, they ****ing hate him.
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09-04-2009 , 09:59 PM


this brought me to tears

Such an awesome opening. Smackdown tonight has been awesome. Fabulous Rey and Morrison match.
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09-04-2009 , 11:45 PM
JoMo = New IC champ.


Hell of a match with Rey Rey.
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09-05-2009 , 12:28 AM
Punk is wrestling right now. I thought Jericho pipped him as top worker of the company but the huge heat, great back to back matches and exceptional promos has sent him right to the top.

That opening with Jeff's music and him coming out dressed as him had me marking hard when the crowd (esp the kids) realised it wasnt him
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