Fifth guy was Duggan.

FInally got around to watching Raw just now. Haven't caught up on thread since SS posts...any more posts from Brandon or Ricardo Rodriguez? lol...

Subway commercial was terrible...however that sandwich sounds really good and will try first thing tomorrow...only cuz it was endorsed by The Miz and he's...AWWWEESOME!

As a fan of wrestling, I must say I was extremely offended by that joker Lawler talking the way he did about the tag team champs and also Kofi and Evan (Who I really really like, and I'd rather have them be a legit tag team title contender as opposed to jobbers every week). It was good to see Evan hit his finisher perfectly, its been so long since he won a match I was beginning to think he'd forget how to do it. But yea just use this as an excuse to get rid of Lawler. It's especially bad for me because I was a huge mark for the heel Lawler commentator in mid to late 90's or w/e. In fact my favorite match of all time is Owen Hart vs. Bret Hart at Wrestlemania X, and a big reason was Lawler having just as flawless a performance as the two Harts did.

Obv very late to the party but I only recently found out McGillicutty is Mr. Perfect's son...I was shocked and figured it was some sort of sick joke. Confirmed (adopted?) How is that even possible?

Ugh, absolutely hated HATED the Nash/Punk promo. Nash sucked on the mic (rusty?) and Punk was decent enough but didn't seem to have his heart into it like he did the previous 2 months. He's probably legit upset he's pretty much "the guy" right now and is being relegated to fueding with Nash instead of the strap. It actually seems like they're using Punk's momentum and current status to drive interest in Nash, instead of the other way around; using Nash to keep Punk relevant and in the spotlight. Shame.

For people that don't think he will actually wrestle, I'm afraid he just might. He didnt just show up and assist HHH or whoever pull this off, he was actually the guy doing the dirty work. He was in a ring, clotheslining and jacknifing CMP. That's two of his 3 moves, i dont recall did he also do the big boot to the face? Ugh...Him actually getting in there and doing "wrestling" moves is a bad sign imo. Give him a month or two to get in shape and we'll see CM Punk vs. Kevin Nash at some point, and that sure as hell can't ever be too soon. Hope I'm wrong and he goes away NOW.

I love watching Kelly Kelly and the Bella twins in matches, they give women a really bad name. But its just so hilarious to me, and they try so hard....Natty/Beth have to go in there and wipe everybody out not just stand there and applaud. Beth, you got beat by Kelly Kelly...and it looked somewhat believable, think about that. And don't come out wearing a) that outfit from SS and b) that dolled up glamorous barbie look you were just trying to bury a few weeks ago.

Hopefully creative can pull something out of their behind and somehow fix this trainwreck that's about to happen. Whoever sent the text message, I just hope its kinda shocking and unexpected and not Steph, hopefully they're levelling in the way they made it pretty obvious it was her. And why Nash? I mean...if you need someone to do something like this; is the first instinct to text message a 52 year old has been/never was? Frustrating..as I was having a bunch of fun getting back into wrestling and they lost me before by screwing up storylines left and right...I bought a CMP shirt that doesnt even fit me, and I dont regret it! Cmon Man!

I like the fact that Nash called Punk indyrific(?) when he is still taking a bunch of indy bookings.

Nash may have stumbled some words but real people do on occasion when they are talking it's completely believable. More importantly, 90% of the guys in WWE presently cut witless, passionate-less, dull promos that do make me not watch. Nash didn't do this. But maybe this is the difference between me and most current WWE fans (I am not a WWE fan as a rule but like the work of a very small number of people in the organization only and give new guys/changed guys a chance); I don't actually like what they usually do and how they do it. I have not liked a single promo I've seen from most of the guys in the WWE (including some guys who have had the strap recently).

Brandon posted links to SS B&W and Raw B&W

RR posted during ADR's intro vs. Rey:

Currently the Divas belt is the most legitimate/best booked belt in WWE.

3 Title changes all year.

WWE Championship: 5 in the last month
World Championship: 4 in the last 3 months
IC Belt: 2 in the last 2 months, last defended 3 PPVs ago
Tag Team Championship: lol
US Title: 2 in the last 3 months, last defended 3 PPVs ago

ahahahaha,

what?

FAO moronbot:



Also, the best thing about Mark Henry is the 'soft side' we've seen on TV before - he'll rip your limbs off, and then write you a poem about it. Tell me that's not ****ing badass.

Fwiw Henry had a monster heel push in 05/06 main eventing matches against The Undertaker, Batista and Kurt Angle. This isn't really a new gimmick for him.

It's a truly amazing thing that a bunch of smarks, myself included, are rushing to Henry's defense. I can't believe how well this is clicking.

pretty insane how much i yawned at him before to how over he is with smarks in such a short time, again myself included

Yeah, but they're sure as hell doing it better this time, and he looks a lot more motivated.

True though, that it's really crazy how fickle the smark audience (myself included) can be. We hated Henry a while back.

That's because a while back Mark Henry was just a twice as big Kofi Kingston. A random face who just came out and wrestled and had no storyline.

It's amazing how characters become more interesting when they have some motivation even if that motivation is "hmm, I'm bigger than everyone, maybe I should start whooping some ass"

Same with R-Truth. Most went from actively hating him to liking him. Next to Punk he has been the most consistantly entertaining part of Raw the last couple months.

Finally got to see the Punk/Nash promo. Liked the text line, obv, other than that it was OK but not amazing, which shows how much I expect from Punk these days. Nash was OK, I don't get people expecting anything else that's who Nash is when he's not playing the sarcastic/funny/goof/dick character and playing a slightly more serious one.

I believe they meant what they said in this segment, also and didn't love Nash trying to bury Punk as the little indy non-superstar but to be fair Punk's character needs an establishment to go against and his fans are mainly smarks so who better to have him feud with than HHH, Nash, Xpac, and other Smark villains? This could work or it could be awful. We'll see.

People keep saying next PPV is NoC, but didn't they scrap that and it's Vengeance now?

They advertised NoC on Raw as the next PPV so I'm assuming they're still going with that.

mark henry should be given the shockmaster gimmick

In regards to Nash, I have no problem watching the guy work. He's nothing great and in all honesty is pretty below average but he has a nice core of power offense (big boot, snake eyes, sidewalk slam, etc.) and I'm a Jackknife mark.

I just wish they wouldn't waste Punk on him. Let Cena and Nash feud or something. That would be a nice build to Cena/Rock, have Cena feud with a few older, established stars and just destroy them.

I don't think anyone expected anything else. That's why most of us were pissed when he showed up at SummerSlam.