So weird, i was just thinking about how i haven't enjoyed wrestling for a good while now. And how this thread of people talking about wrestling, was more entertaining than the product itself. I've barely been watching any at all recently, only things mentioned in a good light in this thread(So barely any really).

I guess i don't think i'll ever fully shake off being into wrestling, WWE trained from the age of 8-9 years old, brought up on a diet of Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels. Just like McDonalds, WWE groomed me from a young age (and thank god it was just them). But just when i was seriously considering quitting this habit, they go and sign my all-time favourite wrestler, Bret Hart. What are the chances?

Its all but guaranteed he will be working as a manager of the Hart Dynasty.

It all comes down to what they want Bret to do. I can easily see him having a role not too dissimilar to Vicky, having some on screen pull in how SD is run but mostly just managing HD, doing double duty working on Raw and SD a lot if and when they feud with DX.

I also agree it would be hard getting him over heel, but given Triple H is going to be turning heel before Mania to feud with Shawn them getting some heat isnt such a bad thing and working tweener vs tweener isnt so bad, i mean Cena gets booed, DX getting some boos isnt as bad as it would be a decade or two ago when ppl cared more about that sort of thing. The difference is Cena has a squeaky clean constantly good guy gimmick, him getting any boos is the polar opposite of his character, DX and the two who make up the team have always been tweeners and can easily slip into either role without harming their characters.

I thought Bret was too damaged physically to wrestle, especially after his motorcycle accident.

Me too but I heard he is going to work 1-2 gimmick matches. No clue how he is gonna pull that off unless they mean him wrestling a diva in a evening gown match

Its not going to happen. He is 52, retired due to massive brain trauma and suffered a stroke that set his life back several years due to his bike accident where he landed on the back of his head.

He wouldnt be the first to make such a decision, but he has repeatedly said he will never get back in the ring to wrestle as its not worth the risk. He said he wanted to be remembered for the peak of his career before it was cut short than afterwards when he put on a half arsed show risking his life for a quick buck.

Plus tbh i dont think WWE would let him wrestle if he wanted to given just how broken down his body is. The last thing they want is for him to take a suplex wrong (he is almost exactly a decade out of practice) and die in the ring or suffer another stroke or other brain injury. They are responsible for the death of one Hart, no way they take even a fraction of a chance on Bret dying in their ring too.

Trust me I agree with you. was just passing along what i read

cmon now, thats not true and you know it.

Well....they kind of are responsible. The safety device was altered the day of the show. Someone from WWF had to give the approval for that.

Owen still had to agree to use it though.

He did a stunt using unsafe equipment.

His family sued the company and won $18 million.

They are responsible anyway you decide to cut it.

At least let Bret slap the sharpshooter on Shawn one time!!!!

Ugh can we not turn this into a argument about Owen's death?

not an argument, jus dont throw WWE under the bus for something they arent responsible for. thanks.

Since we are a bit dead for discussion topics right now, here is a q for y'all. What is your thinking on the current WWE stuff with Mickie James:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHJ-ruvlVH0

Personally i thinks its pretty damn disgusting, i mean seriously, she isnt remotely fat and its way over the line.

Here she is discussing it on twitter and being very diplomatic given how upset she clearly was when that happened in the above vid:
http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/ww...her-weight.php

Even ignoring that she is not fat, has been loyal to the company for several years and that she is one of the best female workers the company has it sends entirely the wrong message. I mean she is getting heat for pursuing a country music career on the side, but this is just wrong.

Hopefully she does the smart thing and becomes a Knock Out instead of a Diva. TNA would snap take her back and its not even close.

There was a Dixie interview just before Mania this year when she was asked to comment on Vince saying TNA is behind the times and PG is the way forward in the industry and she just turned it around and asked what was so PC about Orton beating up Vince and Stephanie and then HHH breaking into Orton's home and trying to kill him with a sledge hammer. PG wrestling, the age of women and old men being beaten up, of violent house invasions and of making your top talent cry by personally abusing them in the ring. This is pretty much the reason people need to watch Impact live and Raw online on Jan 4th.

Reminds me of when they had a whole angle around how huuuuuge molly holly's ass was.

I fast forward through all womens wrestling, occasional I'll oggle maryse for a bit, but thats all. I could care less about any of this stuff, that being said, the Porky Pig thing at the end made me LOL.

According to Molly it wasn't even supposed to be an angle. It was just an insult by Trish, but King RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN with it.

Didn't Striker make a Mickie=fat joke on Raw?

She used to be the best women's wrestler for a bit, and they've just killed her. This feud is pretty bad, and them wanting to push others like Jillian or Kelly Kelly is pretty bad. Gail Kim was huge in TNA, now she's doing nothing in WWE. They need to let the true Divas wrestle, especially if they really wanna make this PG, not just show off the hot ones they have insulting other divas

I take it Michelle McFool can do whatever she wants because she's nailing the Undertaker. Otherwise it's just going to be a steady diet of Kelly Kelly and Maria and some Maryse, whoever they consider the best-looking Divas, regardless of their wrestling ability. Having two women's titles is ridiculous and they need to be unified and have the champion defend on each show. I Gail Kim but unless she starts taking it from behind by HHH or UT, she should just quit and go back to TNA, because she will never get pushed in WWE because she's not a young blonde whore.

Since we're on the topic of Bret Hart, I read something interesting today regarding the infamous Survivor Series match, "the Montreal Screwjob". Some of the info may be new to some of you and it explains why Bret refused to lose to Shawn Michaels at the time.
The stuff about Shawn and the British Bulldog really paints an ugly picture of HBK. Really interesting read.

The fans voted for Diva of the Year Slammy online and chose Maria. This year Maria held no titles, had one match to win a title and spent like 10/12 months not working in the ring but she did valet for Ziggler for a bit.

In other words WWE fans are idiots when it comes to what they want from the Divas.

As for Gail, she has been nerfed because she worked for TNA and was a star there. She is only outperformed in the ring by Beth, Nattie (and its close) and maybe Michelle and Mickie on their good days. But she happened to be one of the biggest stars in the rival company so she is out in the cold for a while.

By biggest stars im including both men and women. Her feud with Kong was huge for the company and it snowballed into them having an extremely good womens division with several of the KOs being up there as being the worlds best.

And even they push The Beautiful People, lol.

ps, Jillian is certainly the most underrated womens worker in the WWE and possibly the most underrated of both sexes. Her finisher was a 450 splash and she used to be exceptionally good in the ring before they reduced her to a bad singing gimmick and a constant stream of 4 on 4 random heel vs face tag matches.

Agreed, the fans are dumb, but then again how can they really vote for a good female wrestler when they have 0 good women's matches? I'm fine with them even keeping back Gail, but then push Beth and Natalya, last I read Beth was just squashing random divas each week on SD just looking powerful, when we already know she is. And Natalya isn't wrestling much either, but she's in the Hart Foundation, and with Bret coming who knows.
If Jillian is really that good then I guess push her, but her gimmick is just god awful and no one likes it at all.
A Mickie/Natalya feud on SD, and then put Melina against anyone really, but the 8 tag matches, and useless battle royal crap is awful.

"The Wrestling Observer is reporting that there are no immediate plans within WWE to use Bryan Danielson. He is currently down in Las Vegas training at the Xtreme Couture gym, and while he is under contract with WWE and is getting paid, he is apparently awaiting word from the company as to when he will be brought up to a roster. "

and

"TNA WRESTLING PRESENTS, “BEFORE THE BELL”. PREMIERING MONDAY, JANUARY 11TH AT 4PM EASTERN ON THE 101 NETWORK, ONLY ON DIRECTV. STAY TUNED TO TNAWRESTLING.COM FOR MORE DETAILS..."

if only I had Directv lol, but that's a weak competition for monday's if that's really what they were planning

TBP are awesome.

I was at this weeks raw in Corpus and the crowd was definitely dead. That being said, I gotta say that the sound system in that building is really crappy and it was VERY hard to understand what was being said. Also, that Diva match was the dumbest thing i've ever seen. WWE hooked me up with some seats right behind lawler. Check me out at 2:41 and 3:40. I'm the guy with the bright orange ultimate warrior shirt and FTP hat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcSHQ3Fa2QQ

How'd WWE hook you up?

i work for the building that hosted TLC and worked extensively with WWE