I see between 5 and 10% of the players with glasses. Some are donks and some are not. I guess I should have reworded my first post.

If a person decides to be a douche and wear sun glasses, what type are good to have? What type are bad, etc. Any recommendations from people who have worn them?

Love your attitude OP! Why not just go Raymer LOL

I HATE Raymer's glasses. They are absolutely tilting! However, if you're gonna wear sunglasses, why not get something completely out of the ordinary and odd? I'd have a hard time trying to look at Raymer to get a tell, as the sunglasses are just so much of a focal point and eerie (in other words, they perform fabulously for the purpose intended).

I'm not a sunglasses wearer, but I considered them for a couple big tournaments I played last year, and I'm considering them for a couple big tournaments I'll likely be playing this year.

I like that people can't tell what I'm looking at.

I had a friend last year purchase the BlueShark glasses at the WSOP. He seemed to like them. Enough that his wife bought a pair as well and wore/liked them.

...so, whatever that's worth.

I can believe that steamraise can work the glasses and still be good at the table, but he has far more experience and tact than most people who wear them, I'd venture.

I do agree about it being nice for others not to know where you're looking, but I remind you of George and the cleavage. Work on your periphery.

Besides, if someone is aware enough of you to be aware of where you're looking, isn't that information? If you know he knows you're looking at him, then you know how to interpret his mannerisms. If he's unsure you're looking at him, then you're also unsure if he thinks you're looking at him. You lose information yourself.

If he's in his own world enough to make helpful tells, then he's not going to notice you stealing a glance. I'm not even looking at people at a table most of the time, and I generally know what others are going to do, or how they feel about their cards. In fact, had a guy just yesterday pull the ol' "big sigh" routine when he hit his hand, and yet people kept paying him off. Some of them had sunglasses.

Assuming players of sufficient skill, I'd simply prefer to provide less information. ...and I'd prefer to do as much of my observation as possible without biasing the subject by letting him know I'm looking. If I suspect I get more information by taking them off, I always can. ...but I can't put them on if I don't have them.

Also, since I never rule out that my opponents are probably better than I am, I similarly don't rule out the possibility that they get more information from me than I get from them -- and limiting the information that they get (or either of us get!) is advantageous.

I won't be wearing sunglasses to my local 4/8 Omaha game, but I'll consider switching to contacts and sunglasses next time I make a day 2.

Fossilman sells them from his website:

http://www.fossilmanpoker.com/sunglasses.htm

I also think they are cool, but could never see myself wearing them at the table either.

Don't stop at sunglasses. Go for the holy trinity of douchedom and wear giant headphones and a hoodie too.

this is a grunch +1, but I feel no need to read the rest of the responses after reading this one.

It looks like OP is well aware he looks like a douche when he wears sunglasses at the poker table. He's not going to forget this if there aren't enough additional posts in his thread pounding it down his throat. He still wants to wear them.

He asked a legitimate question which aside for perhaps the comments on Raymer's glasses have gotten 30 some responses without any attempt to answer it.

I don't wear sunglasses at the poker table (or anywhere else indoors) so I don't have any good answer. But maybe there are people that do. They should be the only ones responding from now on.

Regardless of whether or not posters wear sunglasses, we have opinions on the players that do. I think our responses are pretty valid. I don't know why you're being the thread-cop here.

Yeah not the first minor mini derail on a 2+2 thread that I have seen.

Ha. Nice.

I was that guy wearing sunglasses for a while a few months back. I even had the blue shark glasses, which were great actually. At some point, i felt i was more comfortable with the physical side of live poker and didnt feel like i needed them. Basically, i got sick of being a doosh, as it was worse than giving off the occasional tell. Plus, i feel like i can use my eyes to send signals i want to send without giving away information i dont want to. I keep them in my bag. If i have a chatty jackass near me, i will put them on along with headphones, sometimes with no music on.

Sidebar, i felt like when i wore a hoody ( not with the hood up) and glasses, i got called down light because i looked like an "internet kid" and old live guys like to bluff catch the kids. I got sick of it and started wearing a golf shirt and no glasses and have been getting more respect. Maybe coincidence, but something to consider.

Also, blue sharks were cool. I got some advice from the sales rep that might be helpful here. Wear a hat too, as the overhead lights creat glare on those glasses for some reason if you dont.

Minor derails. Just another feature of M&B.

The sunglasses thread [2+2 Communities > EDF]

Fair enough. I just think OP has an interesting question, and I'd be curious to see somebody feels there is a specific kind of glasses that is especially good for poker, even if I never would wear them at a poker table myself. Kind of a pain to have to read something like 'If you wear them your a douche' 30 (and still counting) times while looking to see if somebody answered his question. Especially when there are other 2+2 posts asking if it is in fact a good idea to wear them. That is wear most of the responses in this thread belong.

If OP wasn't aware when he made his first post, he certainly indicates in his second one that he is aware now that probably 99% of the 2+2 community feel that he'll look stupid at the table wearing sunglasses at the table, no matter which ones he chooses to wear.

At the poker table, is cultivating an image of "stupid" necessarily a bad thing?


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While most of the responses may be valid to a question like, how do people look at the table, or, what what you think of people who have sunglasses on, if you read the original post they have nothing to do with the question asked. I just asked what sunglasses people have used, and what they liked or did not. I understand that most people on 2+2 would not use them, or think they look douchish (not sure if that’s a word). I dont plan on getting any. But if I do and some and people play different against me, I think that’s an ev+ move. Like ie404 posted, “ is cultivating an image of "stupid" necessarily a bad thing?”

Any comments about sunglasses that are good, bad, etc are welcome.
Thank you

Well you don't want sunglasses that are so dark you can't see your cards.

Oakley has a list of lens tints telling how much light each one lets in.

http://www.oakley.com/innovation/opt...ity/lens-tints

So pick some glasses you like and see what lens tints are available
and check the lens tints page to decide which would work best.

http://www.oakley.com/store/products/men/sunglasses

This is so incredibly stupid. I wear shades and I am always the table comedian. Wearing shades and being gregarious are not at all mutually exclusive.

The key point of sunglasses is you can stare down for tells and psych states when out of the action and not get noticed doing it. An incredible amount of useful information is available when wearing shades at a poker table. It's almost an unfair advantage.

Try it AND be friendly and outgoing. You will be amazed.

This is a key point - I stopped wearing sunglasses several years ago after I misread a hand that cost me 5K. I seem to recall that Phil Ivey had a similar experience (probably for significantly higher stakes).

80's style aviators matched with leather bomber jacket, acid washed jeans and cowboy boots eliminates all tells.

If the title of this post was "talk trash about people who wear sunglasses at poker tables" you all would be superstars

Any chance people can see the reflection of your hole cards with those Blue Sharks?