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Stud8: call 4-way jam on river with low draw? Stud8: call 4-way jam on river with low draw?

01-05-2010 , 07:16 PM
Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Stud Hi/Lo $0.25 Ante - 8 players
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3rd Street: (1 SB)
fsukhera: xx xx 3____fsukhera brings in for $1____fsukhera calls
jointy333: xx xx J____jointy333 calls____jointy333 calls
swede46: xx xx K____swede46 folds
ZOJA26: xx xx 4____ZOJA26 calls____ZOJA26 calls
Natasia: xx xx T____Natasia folds
Hero: 5 6 A___Hero raises
Fergie72: xx xx 5____Fergie72 calls
GaryS24: xx xx 6____GaryS24 folds

4th Street: (6 SB) (5 players)
fsukhera: xx xx 3 8____fsukhera calls
jointy333: xx xx J 9____jointy333 calls
ZOJA26: xx xx 4 K____ZOJA26 calls
Hero: 5 6 A 2___Hero bets
Fergie72: xx xx 5 4____Fergie72 calls

5th Street: (5.5 BB) (5 players)
fsukhera: xx xx 3 8 7____fsukhera calls
jointy333: xx xx J 9 A____jointy333 calls
ZOJA26: xx xx 4 K 7____ZOJA26 calls
Hero: 5 6 A 2 2___Hero bets
Fergie72: xx xx 5 4 3____Fergie72 calls

6th Street: (10.5 BB) (5 players)
fsukhera: xx xx 3 8 7 2____fsukhera bets____fsukhera 3-bets____fsukhera calls all in
jointy333: xx xx J 9 A K____jointy333 folds
ZOJA26: xx xx 4 K 7 8____ZOJA26 calls____ZOJA26 caps!
Hero: 5 6 A 2 2 T___Hero checks___Hero calls___Hero ???
Fergie72: xx xx 5 4 3 9____Fergie72 checks____Fergie72 raises____Fergie72 calls
Stud8: call 4-way jam on river with low draw? Quote
01-05-2010 , 07:49 PM
my reckoning is that 4K78 has either 56 / two spades down and 5439 has a rough 8 w/ str8 draw or 7 high straight ... either way I think your low draw is live to a 7, though obv dead for high

quickly guessing it looks like 3 bets to win 11 and 6 cards from 25 with IO on the end for hitting a 7 and getting 2 bets.

so call ? and hit !

I guess it can be a fold if you don't think you draw live for the low vs the diamond board ....
Stud8: call 4-way jam on river with low draw? Quote
01-06-2010 , 12:14 AM
I think we only have 4 outs to half the pot here. 3 bets to win 13 doesn't give you enough equity here... It also seems pretty likely there's another 3 or 4 out there at least.
Stud8: call 4-way jam on river with low draw? Quote
01-06-2010 , 12:23 AM
I call the first bet on 6th and fold when it comes back for two cold and don't give it a second thought.

There are two 3's gone and two 4's gone and they would be the only two cards that I'd feel good about hitting; the only redeeming part is that there probably won't be another jam on the end with that one guy who's all-in, but meh, still looks rough to me.

In tougher games, I hope that you're not always insta-betting your hand on 5th in a multiway pot like this---this isn't razz, there are two good boards out there, and offering yourself a free card every now and then isn't a bad idea. If they're real passive, though, then I don't blame you..

Last edited by Rush17; 01-06-2010 at 12:31 AM.
Stud8: call 4-way jam on river with low draw? Quote
01-06-2010 , 12:48 AM
Fergie has a wheel here like 115% of the time.
Stud8: call 4-way jam on river with low draw? Quote
01-06-2010 , 09:53 AM
Results. Actually Fergie had a good low and straight draw, but not a wheel. Didn't put Fergie on a wheel, but put her on a good low with maybe a straight. Figured if I wasn't already beat, I had 4 outs for half the pot.

6th Street: (10.5 BB) (5 players)
fsukhera: xx xx 3 8 7 2____fsukhera bets____fsukhera 3-bets____fsukhera calls all in
jointy333: xx xx J 9 A K____jointy333 folds
ZOJA26: xx xx 4 K 7 8____ZOJA26 calls____ZOJA26 caps!
Hero: 5 6 A 2 2 T___Hero checks___Hero calls___Hero folds
Fergie72: xx xx 5 4 3 9____Fergie72 checks____Fergie72 raises____Fergie72 calls

7th Street: (23.438 BB) (3 players - 1 is all in)
fsukhera: xx xx 3 8 7 2 xx
ZOJA26: xx xx 4 K 7 8 xx____ZOJA26 bets____ZOJA26 calls
Fergie72: xx xx 5 4 3 9 xx____Fergie72 raises

Final Pot: 27.438 BB
fsukhera mucks 7 9 3 8 7 2 4
ZOJA26 shows 6 A 4 K 7 8 J (HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 8,7,6,4,A)
Fergie72 shows 7 2 5 4 3 9 Q (HI: high card Queen; LO: 7,5,4,3,2)
ZOJA26 wins 2.062 BB
Fergie72 wins 2.062 BB
ZOJA26 wins 11.312 BB
Fergie72 wins 11.25 BB
(Rake: $3.00)
Stud8: call 4-way jam on river with low draw? Quote
01-06-2010 , 01:08 PM
Without and with results def Call/Fold as alrdy mentioned.
Stud8: call 4-way jam on river with low draw? Quote
01-06-2010 , 05:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tapirboy
Fergie has a wheel here like 115% of the time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by betgo
Fergie72 shows 7 2 5 4 3
That's not the wheel I was thinking of. I'm rather astonished at him not raising fifth with this hand.
Stud8: call 4-way jam on river with low draw? Quote
01-06-2010 , 05:31 PM
I'm surprised at Fergie72 raising the river. Is ZOJA26 ever going to fold here? (And by that, I mean, is there any possible hand ZOJA26 could have which justifies a bet/fold line on the river?) And if there is no chance of ZOJA26 folding, the raise is easily seen to be -EV, as ZOJA26 has a lock for the high half of the side pot and a small possibility to take the low...
Stud8: call 4-way jam on river with low draw? Quote
01-07-2010 , 10:45 PM
It sure looks like you've got four outs tops for half of the pot. I don't think it's worth it.
Stud8: call 4-way jam on river with low draw? Quote

      
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