Should i fold pre?
4th?
5th?
6th 7th?
7 Card Stud High ($0.25/$0.50), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.10 (converter)

Seat 1: $7.30
Seat 2: $36.05
Seat 3: $10.15
Seat 4: $2.50
Seat 6: $10.95
Hero: $9.70
Seat 8: $19.45

3rd Street - (1.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 8___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 5___brings-in___calls___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 9___folds
Seat 6: xx xx A___calls___raises___raises
Hero: T K J___raises___raises___calls
Seat 8: xx xx T___folds

4th Street - (10.40 SB)

Seat 6: xx xx A 2___bets___raises___calls
Hero: T K J 5___raises___raises

5th Street - (9.20 BB)

Seat 6: xx xx A 2 A___bets
Hero: T K J 5 4___calls

6th Street - (11.20 BB)

Seat 6: xx xx A 2 A 7___bets
Hero: T K J 5 4 4___calls

River - (13.20 BB)

Seat 6: xx xx A 2 A 7 xx___bets
Hero: T K J 5 4 4 3___calls



btw nice bet-bet-bet vs obv flush





2)
winning play? the only way to win on stars?

7 Card Stud High ($0.25/$0.50), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.10 (converter)

Seat 1: $4.80
Seat 2: $35.85
Seat 3: $9.70
Seat 4: $6.45
Seat 5: $9.70
Seat 6: $14.15
Hero: $5.75
Seat 8: $19.05

3rd Street - (1.60 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2___brings-in___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 8___folds
Seat 3: xx xx A___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 7___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 2___folds
Seat 6: xx xx K___calls___calls
Hero: 4 8 J___raises
Seat 8: xx xx 5___folds

4th Street - (5.00 SB)

Seat 3: xx xx A 8___checks___calls
Seat 6: xx xx K 3___checks___calls
Hero: 4 8 J 4___bets

5th Street - (4.00 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx A 8 5___checks___calls
Seat 6: xx xx K 3 5___checks___calls
Hero: 4 8 J 4 3___bets

6th Street - (7.00 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx A 8 5 7___folds
Seat 6: xx xx K 3 5 A___checks___calls
Hero: 4 8 J 4 3 9___bets

River - (9.00 BB)

Seat 6: xx xx K 3 5 A xx___checks___calls
Hero: 4 8 J 4 3 9 K___bets

Hand #1:

Since the ace called it becomes less likely that a completion can take the pot on third immediately. If he planned on limping here hes likely calling a completion back to him, or possibly limp-raising if he wanted to foolishly do so with aces. Due to this, I'd simply suggest calling. I don't think raising is terrible. Hands like yours play well shorthanded or with many players.

Fourth street I'd just call. He limp RR's and then continues to fire into you. You should keep it in mind that you are a slight underdog to aces here, IF that's all that he has. Whenever someone limp re-raises me on third I keep it in mind that its a far better chance than the norm that I might be playing against a rolled hand. Turns out that wasn't the case here, but it was aces-up. I'd also suggest calling to let him retain the betting lead. If you fail to raise fourth (as an almost certain underdog by the way) it becomes more likely in my mind that he will lead into you on a later street if you do catch a diamond, making your flush.

The end result of the hand sucks of course. Just keep it in mind that you were the underdog on third and fourth streets when you built the pot. You drew out on fifth street, he nailed you to reverse things on the river. Its a brutal game.

Hand #2:

Everything appears completely standard to me. I play third through the river exactly the same.

Hand 1 looks to me like you were not ahead at any point during the hand. He started A2A 2 pr on 4th, and boat on 5th, Not quite sure what poster above me is talking about nailing 7ths. 7th didn't help his hand at all other than giving him a 2 way boat to sail.

To answer your question though about folding. I don't think you can. It is a trap hand..designed to cost you $ and no way of really getting off of it.

You can never fold a hand like this on third here in stud hi. Your hand is a live three card str8 flush. Even if the ace completed you would have a call. Even if you KNEW the player had aces you would have a call. There are still four players to act behind you in what I would suspect is a loose playing limit and game. You would now be hoping for as many callers behind you as possible if this were to occur. However, even if the worst case scenario were to occur, with him raising w/aces and you calling, while all behind you now fold, its not all that bad. If you find yourself playing head-up on third vs. aces, this hand is superior to most that you'd be behind with. Its also easy to escape with on fourth if you catch bad.

in hand 1, you can just call when it comes around the second time. you dont mind being heads up here, especially because catching a pair looks like it is going to still leave you in 2nd place you might as well get multiway action on your draw.

hand 2 I assume you misclicked on 3rd, or did you really want to play that cheese after an A and K limped in a low limit game?

OP, you questions, comments, and play on hand 1 mean you have a lot of work to do in this game imo. I didn't read hand 2.

My eyes! The goggles do nothing!

Are you serious? Even the wildest, drunkest, most deluded nut bar folds that hand. Wow. That's like playing Russian Roulette with 5 bullets in the chamber, winning and then being convinced it was the right thing to do.

Yeah, two players limp into the pot with higher doorcards than yours and you'd raise it up with J84 rainbow. Uh huh. But seeing that you only have 2 posts, I'm guessing it was a level.

Mgogo: Why are you completing 3rd in Hand #2? You're making this game way too hard on yourself if these are the type of spots that you're willingly putting yourself in. Secondly, and if I may ask: what did you mean when you said "only way to win on Stars?"

Uh, no, but you shouldn't jam, either. I'm fine with raising, but after the limp/raise, I call and see what happens.



Well, I'd be betting into you, hoping you'd raise.

Second hand, umm, if you know that the flush is coming, I'm fine with it. I never know stuff like that, though.