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06-02-2008 , 06:20 AM
HORSE Tournament - 7 Card Stud - Level IV (60/120), Ante 12, Bring-In 18

Seat 1: 2,429
Seat 2: 1,483
Seat 3: 2,434
Seat 4: 1,426
Seat 6: 1,267
Hero: 3,103
Seat 8: 2,258

3rd Street - (1.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6___calls___calls
Seat 2: xx xx J___raises___calls
Seat 3: xx xx A___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 6___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 8___folds
Hero: Q Q 9___raises
Seat 8: xx xx 6___brings-in___calls

4th Street - (11.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6 J___folds
Seat 2: xx xx J 5___calls
Seat 3: xx xx A A___bets (not a double bet)
Hero: Q Q 9 K___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 6 5___calls

5th Street - (7.7 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx J 5 J___calls
Seat 3: xx xx A A 2___bets
Hero: Q Q 9 K A___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 6 5 3___calls

6th Street - (11.7 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx J 5 J 6___calls
Seat 3: xx xx A A 2 9___checks___calls
Hero: Q Q 9 K A Q___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 6 5 3 4___calls

River - (15.7 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx J 5 J 6 xx___folds
Seat 3: xx xx A A 2 9 xx___checks___calls
Hero: Q Q 9 K A Q 7___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 6 5 3 4 xx___folds

Total pot: (17.7 BB - 2,124)
Stud Hi hand from a HORSE tournament Quote
06-02-2008 , 10:58 AM
Flat calling 3rd is an option and see what 4th and 5th bring.
Fold 4th definitely.
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06-02-2008 , 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ceegee
Flat calling 3rd is an option and see what 4th and 5th bring.
Fold 4th definitely.
i think you got lucky on 6th and may have pulled this one out. But taking an under pair against a paired board plus multi way against other draw is a formula to lose a lot of chips in stud high.
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06-03-2008 , 01:54 AM
Third is fine. I would also accept flat-calling.

Calling fourth is atrocious. You're beaten on board. If the Aces guy has two pair you are drawing very, very slim. If he doesn't have two pair now, there is an excellent chance that he'll make that by the river, and you won't know when. There are also a few other people that you may have to outrun (hard to know how many when you're out of position like this). It's pretty rare that the pot is big enough that you should call when you're beaten on board, and particularly rare on fourth street.

Sixth and seventh are good.
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06-03-2008 , 05:10 AM
Okay, I'm a donkey. I know. I am still learning this stud business, and even though I have been making a profit (yes, I know it's hard to believe, but true), I feel that I am still handling situations incorrectly quite frequently, and am probably thinking about things in the wrong ways.

As usual, I posted this hand here to get the advice and analysis from the panel here in the stud forum. I called on 4th because I thought there were 8 cards still out that would put me ahead. The guy with aces on board only led out a single bet, which could have been a mistake, but I figured if he had 2 pair or trips at that point he surely would have made the double bet. So at this point, my "read" is that aces-boy has a pair and nothing better.

I catch an ace on 5th and call his [mandatory?] bet just to tell him I'm pretty sure he doesn't have trips or two pair. I even considered bluff-raising at this point, to both tell him I wasn't afraid of the aces on board (even though I was), but also that I don't think he has a 3rd ace or a pair in the hole. I feel pretty comfortable that he does not have a deuce in the hole. This makes me believe that I still have 8 live cards (possibly 9 if no one else has the case ace in the hole) and the pot is offering me 8.7:1 for a call.

So I called and got lucky on 6th, at which point the aces boarded shut down.

So there is my donkarific analysis of my donktastic play.

And I did win the hand, too. Needless to say, I tend to do better in the other games in a HORSE tournament. I do best in the E, 2nd best in the R, 3rd best in the H, 4th best in the O (play too many hands), and I do really badly in the S.
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06-03-2008 , 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gambear
The guy with aces on board only led out a single bet, which could have been a mistake, but I figured if he had 2 pair or trips at that point he surely would have made the double bet. So at this point, my "read" is that aces-boy has a pair and nothing better.
Actually the reverse is often true the player that hits trips will make a single bet to get paid but not chase away the customers.

It's a lot more dangerous multi way but still happens.
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