I haven't done any technical analysis, but this looks about right considering the dead cards, right? I'm not crazy am I?

Fifth I had to carry through because of how strong I played the first two streets my likelihood of getting raised is small and checking might let somebody make a hand Six. I don't think I mind if seat 7 raises and we kick the other Eight draw out.

Sixth and the river are a drag, but the pot is huge and I haven't seen any Sixes yet.

I'm not nuts am I?

Razz ($5/$10), Ante $1, Bring-In $1.50 (converter)

Seat 1: $494
Seat 3: $202
Seat 4: $223.50
Seat 5: $86.50
Hero: $517
Seat 7: $263
Seat 8: $181.50

3rd Street - (1.4 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2 ___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 7 ___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 2 ___calls
Seat 5: xx xx K ___brings-in ___folds
Hero: A 8 2 ___completes ___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 4 ___raises
Seat 8: xx xx 8 ___folds

4th Street - (9.7 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2 J ___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 2 8 ___calls ___calls ___calls
Hero: A 8 2 4 ___checks ___raises ___raises
Seat 7: xx xx 4 5 ___bets ___raises ___calls

5th Street - (10.85 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx 2 8 K ___calls
Hero: A 8 2 4 T ___bets
Seat 7: xx xx 4 5 Q ___calls

6th Street - (13.85 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx 2 8 K T ___folds
Hero: A 8 2 4 T J ___checks ___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 4 5 Q 6 ___bets

River - (15.85 BB)

Hero: A 8 2 4 T J 9 ___checks ___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 4 5 Q 6 xx ___bets

Total pot: (17.85 BB - $178.50)

Uh... Just ran this. Third looks like I'm taking the worst of it about always. Fourth broke good and I'm the money favorite there.

Got away with one. I feel dirty.

Why? You didn't go crazy on third. You completed and called a raise where you weren't that far behind. You went crazy on 4th when you were a clear favorite. Even 3-handed because of the persistence of stubborn Seat 4, you have a clear advantage. nh.

I hope you don't find this insulting but - you played it like I would have, nice hand - what makes you think it's "getting away with?" It's great!

Well, I intuitively thought I would have an overlay on Third. I was surprised to see I was at 20 percent equity even giving the other players fairly loose Third street ranges, and there isn't enough in the pot to justify putting in two bets. I say two because I expected a raise from one or another of the Deuce door cards.

From Fourth on, everything is pretty normal, I agree.

Piffle, I say! Look, 3rd street equity is mostly useless as long as you've got a live hand. Giving up this pot this early, that would be crazy. I know I'm a heretic but I'm not calling a bad 4th for pot odds alone and not folding for them, either. If you have a decent hand on 3rd and are confident in your later street play, play.

You did good.





(You might still be crazy, of course.....)

I don't get it. Why is hero jamming 4th with what is likely not the best hand? Just because his cards are so live and many of his pair cards are out?

Yes, that's it exactly. That makes hero a significant money favorite in a three-way pot. Simulation here.

So you won and tilted the villain. Nice job

He should be happy he is playing with a fish. A big bad scary one with big teeth and a fin but he doesn't know that.

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Nice call down at the end. With no sixes out, there was a good chance that he paired up. Strange seat 4 didn't think the same and as such could have won the pot with a catch.

I think your simulation is wrong on 4th street. Though this is because your sim gives them the chance of pairing, which isn't the case looking at the betting. Otherwise probably all 3 players could run the sims and feel they are miles ahead.

Probably betting out and hoping the other seat raises is more likely to get seat 4 out, though without knowing his cards he may have been equal to you and your bets being -ev.

I ran it again without possible pairs and assuming the jack folds to the first bet. looks like I am in second place at worst, and capping is still taking money from the third man and giving it to me and the other guy.

That's right, and if you assume the person in 3rd place doesn't have a 87, then your equity is 33.16%, so you aren't really gaining.

It's not a bad play but not hugely profitable. Well played at the end.

this is what i dont get. on 4th i can see leading and flatting the insta raise by the 6 draw just to see if we can get seats 1 and 4 out, but regardless of how strong our draw is and no matter which low we hit, that dude isnt going anywhere, so we dont really have any additional fold equity.

checking and letting seat four call 1 bet before he has to call those next two is almost a reason for him to, so i believe youre playing this as an equity favorite, in which you may as well toss in the cap on fourth and call down feeling priced in. meanwhile im looking for the cheapest route to isolate and continue the hand, while eyeballing the first door out of here if he hits 7 or under.

my line vs someone whos not going to raise my complete with 8 under

complete 3rd
bet/call 4th
check/call 5th
fold 6th

its v weak/passive, but as him id be raising anything 3rd 4th 5th. so i guess statistically it kinda makes sense to me, but at the same time it doesnt make sense to me. glad you won regardless.