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Razz 4 way pot jammed on every street early on in MTT. Razz 4 way pot jammed on every street early on in MTT.

03-11-2010 , 04:39 AM
Full Tilt Poker $5,000 Guarantee Limit Razz Tournament - t40/t80 Limit + t7 - 8 players
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Rbj2848 (): t4217 M = 36.35
7cardRyoff (): t4582 M = 39.50
TheAres (): t1623 M = 13.99
dfunks222 (): t3320 M = 28.62
Jon Turner (): t2299 M = 19.82
OnlyPlayRagz (): t2146 M = 18.50
Hero (): t2690 M = 23.19
Mensink (): t3152 M = 27.17

3rd Street: (1.4 SB)
Rbj2848: xx xx 2____Rbj2848 completes____Rbj2848 calls____Rbj2848 calls
7cardRyoff: xx xx 3____7cardRyoff raises____7cardRyoff caps!
TheAres: xx xx 7____TheAres 3-bets____TheAres calls
dfunks222: xx xx 8____dfunks222 folds
Jon Turner: xx xx A____Jon Turner folds
OnlyPlayRagz: xx xx 5____OnlyPlayRagz folds
Hero: 7 6 3___Hero calls___Hero calls
Mensink: xx xx K____Mensink brings in for $10____Mensink folds

4th Street: (17.65 SB) (4 players)
Rbj2848: xx xx 2 9____Rbj2848 calls____Rbj2848 calls____Rbj2848 calls
7cardRyoff: xx xx 3 T____7cardRyoff calls____7cardRyoff calls____7cardRyoff calls
TheAres: xx xx 7 9____TheAres raises____TheAres caps!
Hero: 7 6 3 2___Hero bets___Hero 3-bets___Hero calls

5th Street: (16.825 BB) (4 players)
Rbj2848: xx xx 2 9 A____Rbj2848 bets____Rbj2848 3-bets
7cardRyoff: xx xx 3 T 6____7cardRyoff raises____7cardRyoff calls
TheAres: xx xx 7 9 7____TheAres calls____TheAres calls
Hero: 7 6 3 2 J___Hero calls___Hero calls

6th Street: (28.825 BB) (4 players)
Rbj2848: xx xx 2 9 A Q____Rbj2848 calls
7cardRyoff: xx xx 3 T 6 4____7cardRyoff bets
TheAres: xx xx 7 9 7 8____TheAres calls
Hero: 7 6 3 2 J K___Hero calls

7th Street: (32.825 BB) (4 players)
Rbj2848: xx xx 2 9 A Q xx____Rbj2848 bets
7cardRyoff: xx xx 3 T 6 4 xx____7cardRyoff checks____7cardRyoff calls
TheAres: xx xx 7 9 7 8 xx____TheAres checks____TheAres calls
Hero: 7 6 3 2 J K Q___Hero checks___Hero folds

Spoiler:
Final Pot: 35.825 BB
Rbj2848 shows Td 6s 2s 9s Ad Qc 3h (9,6,3,2,A)
TheAres shows 6h 4h 7d 9c 7h 8c Ah (8,7,6,4,A)
TheAres wins 35.825 BB



Should I just get the **** out of hands like this early on in MTT's? I lost my whole stack in the first ten minutes of the tourny because of spots like this. So many boneheads= high variance.

No idea what in heavens name Ares was thinking calling 5th.

Anyways, where should I have folded and where should I have been less aggressive?
Razz 4 way pot jammed on every street early on in MTT. Quote
03-11-2010 , 06:25 AM
Seems pretty simple to me... fold 3rd, otherwise played right.
Razz 4 way pot jammed on every street early on in MTT. Quote
03-11-2010 , 06:26 AM
fine with me
Razz 4 way pot jammed on every street early on in MTT. Quote
03-11-2010 , 09:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oscillator
fine with me
same here.

+you just give up value by trying to keep variance down most of the time, and thats necessary if you have the role.

i might suck at razz mtts, but in general my razz game is good except of some loose calls and raises through misreading BUT i did not cash in razz 215$ at stars 10 weeks in a row, 10x iunder the first ten people out.. 11th one i got to ft, busted first. variance is big, thats the point.
Razz 4 way pot jammed on every street early on in MTT. Quote
03-11-2010 , 11:54 AM
If i'm feeling nitty I fold 5th, otherwise i prolly play it like you.
Razz 4 way pot jammed on every street early on in MTT. Quote
03-12-2010 , 10:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by finknik
3rd Street: (1.4 SB)
Rbj2848: xx xx 2____Rbj2848 completes____Rbj2848 calls____Rbj2848 calls
7cardRyoff: xx xx 3____7cardRyoff raises____7cardRyoff caps!
TheAres: xx xx 7____TheAres 3-bets____TheAres calls
dfunks222: xx xx 8____dfunks222 folds
Jon Turner: xx xx A____Jon Turner folds
OnlyPlayRagz: xx xx 5____OnlyPlayRagz folds
Hero: 7 6 3___Hero calls___Hero calls
Mensink: xx xx K____Mensink brings in for $10____Mensink folds
Lots of names. I once saw Jon Turner get really angry and switch off his chat because he got so pissed off with people calling him a "ginger fairy boy"

Third seems like a clear fold to me. Your facing three-bets cold very likely in last place. Although your 7 and 3 door is paired and your 76 hidden, I'd rather take the lower variance route in a tournament with 4 outs dead and likely worst draw

Quote:
Originally Posted by finknik
4th Street: (17.65 SB) (4 players)
Rbj2848: xx xx 2 9____Rbj2848 calls____Rbj2848 calls____Rbj2848 calls
7cardRyoff: xx xx 3 T____7cardRyoff calls____7cardRyoff calls____7cardRyoff calls
TheAres: xx xx 7 9____TheAres raises____TheAres caps!
Hero: 7 6 3 2___Hero bets___Hero 3-bets___Hero calls
Yes. I think this is a really bad cap by TheAres. He's probably in last place actually and any value he think he's getting from the 3T or maybe the 92 isn't there and if it is then it doesn't make up for it versus your smooth board/good draw.

Quote:
Originally Posted by finknik
5th Street: (16.825 BB) (4 players)
Rbj2848: xx xx 2 9 A____Rbj2848 bets____Rbj2848 3-bets
7cardRyoff: xx xx 3 T 6____7cardRyoff raises____7cardRyoff calls
TheAres: xx xx 7 9 7____TheAres calls____TheAres calls
Hero: 7 6 3 2 J___Hero calls___Hero calls
I think this is fine. The pot is so big and with Ares putting more money in it's a good think. Very likely your in third place but the pot is very big.

EDIT: Actually you could be in second or tied for second when 7cardryoff doesn't decide to cap

Quote:
Originally Posted by finknik
6th Street: (28.825 BB) (4 players)
Rbj2848: xx xx 2 9 A Q____Rbj2848 calls
7cardRyoff: xx xx 3 T 6 4____7cardRyoff bets
TheAres: xx xx 7 9 7 8____TheAres calls
Hero: 7 6 3 2 J K___Hero calls
Yes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by finknik
7th Street: (32.825 BB) (4 players)
Rbj2848: xx xx 2 9 A Q xx____Rbj2848 bets
7cardRyoff: xx xx 3 T 6 4 xx____7cardRyoff checks____7cardRyoff calls
TheAres: xx xx 7 9 7 8 xx____TheAres checks____TheAres calls
Hero: 7 6 3 2 J K Q___Hero checks___Hero folds
All-in. Also think rb river bet is silly
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