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11-11-2008 , 02:54 PM
also, easy vouch for Oscillator and Chips
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11-11-2008 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by listening
Since people are talking about staking in here and I don't understand it (along with most other stuff I don't understand) would you, if you don't mind and if you do just ignore me, tell me why you'd take a stake? The buy-in for the Razz FTOPS is about equal to a reraised 3rd street of a cash game where you might fold 5th, anyway. It only comes around a few times a year. I've seen you post hands where you've lost the total buy-ins for all the Razz FTOPS in a year in one hand. Or won them in one hand. But you'd split the profit if you cash well in this trny with somebody else? For what is basically a SB + a BB?

I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm just asking you, or anyone really, why this makes sense? I don't understand a lot of bankroll management, I guess. Is this one of those equations that makes my head hurt?




Lis<-- wishing for a bankroll big enough to "manage" -- and an aspirin
Maybe the people wanting a stake aren't as good as you think they are. Although the benefits of a stake is that you are basically free rolling for big money.. If this guy was offering to buy pieces of people then it would make absolutely no sense for a good player to accept.. But a free steak?? Why not, but I want dessert too.
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11-11-2008 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by frappeboy
Maybe the people wanting a stake aren't as good as you think they are. Although the benefits of a stake is that you are basically free rolling for big money.. If this guy was offering to buy pieces of people then it would make absolutely no sense for a good player to accept.. But a free steak?? Why not, but I want dessert too.
Hmm. When someone offers a stake I assume they are actually buying a piece. One standard arrangement is half of profit (may or may not include stake back)
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11-11-2008 , 04:31 PM
I'll vouch for iStack also... although it seems he stinks at campaign selection.
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11-11-2008 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by frappeboy
Maybe the people wanting a stake aren't as good as you think they are. Although the benefits of a stake is that you are basically free rolling for big money.. If this guy was offering to buy pieces of people then it would make absolutely no sense for a good player to accept.. But a free steak?? Why not, but I want dessert too.
Perhaps not. Everybody has their own reasons for being staked. Less risk (with less reward), ability to play up in level, networking with potential coaches/top players, etc.

Even top players make it into the money only about 15-25% of the time and go deep far less often. A NL specialist playing Razz or Stud8 may understand tournament play to the highest degree but may miss some of the nuances in playing in a mid-to-late stage Razz or Stud8 MTT.

Given the percentage of runners who likely will have little knowledge of optimal Razz/Stud8 tournament strategy in these fields, OP and his colleagues may believe that backing a number of horses who do is an optimal way to maximize overall return. OP can explain his own reasons, if he chooses.
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11-11-2008 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by iStackBooks
took 3 months off to work on the McCain campaign and in the process cashed out the majority of my online roll (which I am now regretting).
regretting the campaign or the cash out?
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11-11-2008 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by spike420211
Addendumentz:
the names boxed in red are fellow nitecrawlers.
I can vouch for the talents of each of them.
however, i don't know how many of them have tilt accounts:

I really dont like to troll... buuuut

LOL at HiRollinShark

LOL at frosty73

LOL at STUDMANRON

the only decent player on that list is not circled, sgt.schultz
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11-11-2008 , 07:40 PM
Staking could be used to help a lower stakes player play higher. Someone who hasn't the roll to play a $330 buyin might be a good gamble if they are doing well at lower stakes.

Buy a man a hamburger and you fed him lunch.
Buy a man a steak and he may take home leftovers for later.
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11-11-2008 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Merc
I really dont like to troll... buuuut

LOL at HiRollinShark

LOL at frosty73

LOL at STUDMANRON

the only decent player on that list is not circled, sgt.schultz
Schultz merc... he reminds me of a player named smokenreefer without the volume

Last edited by razz1; 11-11-2008 at 08:32 PM.
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11-11-2008 , 08:25 PM
I will give you a simple reason that I am going to win. I am a razz grinder and have been playing razz for about 8 months. played and cashed in the 2k guarantee and want to make a splash in the poker world by taking down the ftops. I play smart and have a good coach. And i can get a few 2+2'ers to confirm on my behalf.
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11-11-2008 , 09:05 PM
i've got a lot of info here, i'll be PMing the people that we like tommorow

FWIW, last year bakes did this and one of the guys he staked final tabled and made a decent score.
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11-12-2008 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro Merc
I really dont like to troll... buuuut

LOL at HiRollinShark

LOL at frosty73

LOL at STUDMANRON

the only decent player on that list is not circled, sgt.schultz
I take it ur a FullTilter, OK.
don't LOL too much,
I realize this is only murderer's row in the micro's...
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11-12-2008 , 04:42 AM
Fatal and others,

My results (be sure to look back more than 120 days if applicable):

http://www.officialpokerrankings.com...D73B6.html?t=2

This isn't the biggest sample size and I'm aware of that but you can see I do fairly well in razz tournaments. It is currently my best ROI game.

I love the game and always wanted to play in a FTOPS event, I'm a student of the game reading the magazine articles on razz along with Sklansky on Poker.

My style:

Tight and aggressive sums it up. I'm always looking for the edge to put in raises (be it live cards, my opponents image, etc.). I do not commit to many blunders nor chase when far behind, like I said tight and aggressive. You will not see me busting out within one hour.


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If you have any more questions or comments let me know. I may not have the deeper results listings as these other guys but I can guarantee I will work damn hard if you stake me.
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11-12-2008 , 09:20 AM
You should steak me as im the third best Amateur Razz player in the WORLD, as recognised by the APAT.

But seriously, i came third in the UK's first ever live Razz tourney.

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=110783

(it says second but i actually came third)
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11-12-2008 , 12:26 PM
One time I came in 3rd place out of 19 in a $5.50 Razz tournament. Need I say more......Sorry fellow Stud forum members, I've just taken one of your spots......
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11-12-2008 , 01:10 PM
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You will not see me busting out within one hour.
This made me chuckle. As if you really have a choice when you start A234 against AJ8J and he makes an 8 while you sit there looking at your 9 in disbelief saying ONE CARD 8 OR LOWER.
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11-12-2008 , 03:35 PM
+1 vouch for Pro Merc. I've railed him playing cash, HU, and in the 1k guarantee. He's been grinding and has done amazingly well given the short time period he's been playing razz; obv knows the game. He deserves a chance imho.





SWEET MOTHER OF GOD, WHAT IS THE HOLD UP?! LET THE BOY PLAY FTOPS!!
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11-12-2008 , 05:14 PM
I was about to go into a big speech about why I should be steaked, till I realised I had a date when the Event was happening. Women > Poker.
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11-12-2008 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowmash
I was about to go into a big speech about why I should be steaked, till I realised I had a date when the Event was happening. Women > Poker.
Get some pussaaaay!
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11-12-2008 , 09:38 PM
PMs going out to:

razz1
istackbooks
oscilator
chipsahoya
aarono2690
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11-13-2008 , 12:17 AM
GL guys.
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11-13-2008 , 12:34 AM
Anyone down for sharing Nicknames on FT so we can keep tabs on each others progress or rahter do that in private?
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11-13-2008 , 01:40 AM
gg my ftops dreams
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11-13-2008 , 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by FatalError
PMs going out to:

razz1
istackbooks
oscilator
chipsahoya
aarono2690
Its like moving on to the next round in a beauty pageant.
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11-13-2008 , 03:31 AM
ill lobby better next time and have a cheesey ending. glglgl books and osc heads up imo
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