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10-21-2010 , 04:13 PM
Hello.

Table was quite loose. Seat 2 was very agressive so i have raised him to go hu. The same story on 4th street, but seat 4th make a snap call and i put him here on flushdraw. Streets 5th and 6th i think no need to explain.

And here go street number 7. Honestly i think that i will fold even if seat 2 didn't raise.

Please judge.

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Stud $0.05 Ante - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

3rd Street: (1.6 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx 4____Seat 1 calls____Seat 1 folds
Seat 2: xx xx 5____Seat 2 completes____Seat 2 calls
Hero: Q Q 3___Hero raises
Seat 4: xx xx 8____Seat 4 calls
Seat 5: xx xx 2____Seat 5 brings in for $0.10____Seat 5 folds
Seat 6: xx xx 4____Seat 6 calls____Seat 6 folds
Seat 7: xx xx 2____Seat 7 folds
Seat 8: xx xx K____Seat 8 calls____Seat 8 calls

4th Street: (10.8 SB) (4 players)
Seat 2: xx xx 5 T____Seat 2 bets____Seat 2 calls
Hero: Q Q 3 4___Hero raises
Seat 4: xx xx 8 4____Seat 4 calls
Seat 8: xx xx K 2____Seat 8 checks____Seat 8 folds

5th Street: (8.4 BB) (3 players)
Seat 2: xx xx 5 T 6____Seat 2 checks____Seat 2 calls
Hero: Q Q 3 4 Q___Hero bets
Seat 4: xx xx 8 4 A____Seat 4 checks____Seat 4 calls

6th Street: (11.4 BB) (3 players)
Seat 2: xx xx 5 T 6 J____Seat 2 checks____Seat 2 calls
Hero: Q Q 3 4 Q 6___Hero bets
Seat 4: xx xx 8 4 A K____Seat 4 checks____Seat 4 calls

7th Street: (14.4 BB) (3 players)
Seat 2: xx xx 5 T 6 J xx____Seat 2 raises____Seat 2 caps!
Hero: Q Q 3 4 Q 6 7___Hero folds
Seat 4: xx xx 8 4 A K xx____Seat 4 bets____Seat 4 3-bets____Seat 4 calls

Spoiler:
Final Pot: 22.4 BB
Seat 2 shows Ts As 5s Td 6s Jh Js (a flush, Ace high)
Seat 4 shows Ah 9h 8h 4h Ac Ks Qh (a flush, Ace high - Queen higher)
Seat 4 wins 21.6 BB
(Rake: $0.40)
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10-21-2010 , 04:38 PM
Next time river a boat. Otherwise wp.
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10-21-2010 , 05:19 PM
You folded for one bet on the river? Not wp. At least call. When it gets raised and reraised after you call/raise the river, then you can fold.
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10-21-2010 , 05:21 PM
Oops, was bet raised before it got to you, nevermind. Good fold.
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10-21-2010 , 06:10 PM
When one guy on an obvious draw bets, and then the other guy on an obvious draw raises after being 100% passive most of the hand, it can only mean one thing. An invasion.
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10-21-2010 , 10:23 PM
Don't make a habit of folding trip Queens for one bet when you're getting more than 15:1. This was well played though.
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10-22-2010 , 01:49 AM
Ok so let's pretend that seat 2 fold after my bet on 6th steet and now i am HU with seat 4 chasing his flush.
Now let's talk about two scenarious on 7th steet:

1) He bets. How often i should call or fold in this spot? I think i fold most of the time..

2) He check. Now it's bet/fold for me the best option?
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10-22-2010 , 07:48 AM
Obviously you would call the river for one bet. Given you were facing two cold from obvious draws, yes, fold. But otherwise the hand seems fine by me.
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10-22-2010 , 10:40 AM
And what about: he check, I bet, he raise, me..?
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10-22-2010 , 10:52 AM
Call.
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10-22-2010 , 10:57 AM
So basicly being in HU = went to showdown for me? No matter how he plays his hand.
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10-22-2010 , 07:04 PM
If hes river betting/check-raising range is always flush or better you can safely fold or bet-fold.

However.

Besides the possibility villain is making an odd bluff at the pot, although not a very good spot to be bluffing, he also could lead 7th with a lot of hands you are beating that he thinks is worth value betting. If you are folding a lot in these spots its a huge leak you should consider analyzing, you will not be a winner at limit poker folding trip-queens in StudHi on 7th street getting 1:14,4 odds/needing to be good 7% of the time to show a profit on the call.

Even though the fold in 3handed river was correct this time and probably is a +Ev laydown, I could easily advocate for a call especially if the player in seat 2 has been described as very aggressive.
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10-23-2010 , 02:12 AM
There isn't much money to be made folding good hands for one bet in large pots in limit poker. Find reasons to fold early. Find reasons to call late.
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10-23-2010 , 02:22 AM
I probably would have called, but, then I'm so bad I play at the 25-50 cent level. The hands are so hidden that I would have called and the opp. would usually have two pair. .. .. that is at 25-50 cent. I mean if they at least had some kind of coordination showing, like 3 to a flush or a straight, etc, then maybe fold to huge betting, maybe. Great Fold, beyond anything at 25-50 cent! This reminds of when i wanted to rename pokerstars stud as "the full house game", b/c so many full houses came on there [flushes too]. With two players obviously committing all out to the hand on 7th, i hope i would fold in the same situation.

Last edited by SOBERMARK; 10-23-2010 at 02:29 AM.
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