PokerStars Game #17971269201: Tournament #90360177, $10+$1 HORSE (Razz Limit) - Level III (40/80) - 2008/06/07 - 04:09:28 (ET)
Table '90360177 6' 8-max
Seat 1: Alphabett (2280 in chips)
Seat 2: splitaces (1942 in chips)
Seat 3: vermine (2368 in chips)
Seat 4: Killer88 (1400 in chips)
Seat 5: sunshinesam (1360 in chips)
Seat 6: HollyWoodStr (1695 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: pqmt (1695 in chips)
Seat 8: 7CardRyon (1660 in chips)
pqmt: posts the ante 8
7CardRyon: posts the ante 8
Alphabett: posts the ante 8
splitaces: posts the ante 8
vermine: posts the ante 8
Killer88: posts the ante 8
sunshinesam: posts the ante 8
HollyWoodStr: posts the ante 8
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to Alphabett [2s 7c 5c]
Dealt to splitaces [Kd]
Dealt to vermine [Th]
Dealt to Killer88 [4s]
Dealt to sunshinesam [Kc]
Dealt to HollyWoodStr [Jd]
Dealt to pqmt [8s]
Dealt to 7CardRyon [As]
splitaces: brings in for 12
vermine: folds
Killer88: calls 12
sunshinesam: folds
HollyWoodStr: folds
pqmt: raises 28 to 40
7CardRyon: folds
Alphabett: raises 40 to 80
splitaces: folds
Killer88: calls 68
pqmt: calls 40
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Alphabett [2s 7c 5c] [Tc]
Dealt to Killer88 [4s] [2d]
Dealt to pqmt [8s] [5d]
Killer88: bets 40
pqmt: calls 40
Alphabett: calls 40
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Alphabett [2s 7c 5c Tc] [4d]
Dealt to Killer88 [4s 2d] [4c]
Dealt to pqmt [8s 5d] [9d]
pqmt: bets 80
Alphabett: calls 80
Killer88: folds
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Alphabett [2s 7c 5c Tc 4d] [Qs]
Dealt to pqmt [8s 5d 9d] [6d]
pqmt: bets 80
Alphabett: calls 80
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Alphabett [2s 7c 5c Tc 4d Qs] [8d]
pqmt: bets 80
Alphabett: calls 80
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pqmt: shows [3s Ac 8s 5d 9d 6d Ah] (Lo: 8,6,5,3,A)
Alphabett: mucks hand
pqmt collected 916 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 916 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Alphabett mucked [2s 7c 5c Tc 4d Qs 8d]
Seat 2: splitaces folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 3: vermine folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Killer88 folded on the 5th Street
Seat 5: sunshinesam folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: HollyWoodStr folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: pqmt showed [3s Ac 8s 5d 9d 6d Ah] and won (916) with Lo: 8,6,5,3,A
Seat 8: 7CardRyon folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)



Razz is my weakest game, dont even know where to start on this hand, where do u think it went wrong?

total novice opinion: I would fold 4th. Even if one of them paired, you're not in great shape.
2s 7c 5c Tc 0.261
6h 2d 4s 2h 0.221
3s Ac 8s 5d 0.518
With a 97 maybe you have enough to continue given the extra bet on 3rd? Don't know.

There is also the consideration that killer limped in on 3rd. Is this low enough stakes that he might be doing this with something silly like (2Q)6? This would help, but I'd probably still fold.

Fold 4th, other then that when you hit the 4 in 5th you are pretty much doomed to go to 7th.

Btw, the stud forum will give you alot better feedback on this.

If you convert the hand you might get more responses.


Tournament - HORSE - Razz - Level III (40/80), Ante 8, Bring-In 12 (converter)

Hero: 2,280
Seat 2: 1,942
Seat 3: 2,368
Seat 4: 1,400
Seat 5: 1,360
Seat 6: 1,695
Seat 7: 1,695
Seat 8: 1,660

3rd Street - (1.60 SB)

Hero: 2 7 5___raises
Seat 2: xx xx K___brings-in___folds
Seat 3: xx xx T___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 4___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx K___folds
Seat 6: xx xx J___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 8___raises___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A___folds

4th Street - (7.90 SB)

Hero: 2 7 5 T___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 4 2___bets
Seat 7: xx xx 8 5___calls

5th Street - (5.45 BB)

Hero: 2 7 5 T 4___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 4 2 4___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 8 5 9___bets

6th Street - (7.45 BB)

Hero: 2 7 5 T 4 Q___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 8 5 9 6___bets

River - (9.45 BB)

Hero: 2 7 5 T 4 Q 8___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 8 5 9 6 xx___bets

Total pot: (11.45 BB)

You played it about the only way it could be played. Get Sklansky on Poker and maybe you will suck less at razz.

Raising 5th can't be all bad can it? Especially considering how live Aces, 3s and 6s are and our desire to get rid of the 424 hand?

Yeah, raising fifth would be fine. I don't think that there's much that 424 folds for two bets that he doesn't also fold for one bet.