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I muck a full house !? stud hi I muck a full house !? stud hi

01-02-2014 , 02:53 AM
This hand is part of a small buy($100) live! horse tourny.

Final table 5 handed, no one has more than 7 or 8 full bets. I believe I had 7ish.

Villain (xx)10 open calls
fold (small)
fold (small)
fold (j)
Hero (3xqd) 3d complete

Hero's been by far most aggressive, villain has been tight passive.


4th

V (xx)10,A Bets
H (3q) 3,Q Calls (with intention of raising 5)

5th

V(xx) 10,A,10 Bets
H (3q) 3,Q,A Calls (brakes applied)

6th
V(xx) 10,A,10,A Bets
H(3q) 3,q,a,3 Hero's hand hits the soup.


My thought process on 3rd is, Villain was playing super tight, and hasn't played back thus opening last in, even with limited chips felt right. 4th when he fires I'm concerned, but not going to fold what looks like the best hand, hoping to get it all in with a big bet on 5th. When the Villain pairs 5th and fires, I should have folded but in game speed zoned out and called. 6th when his board is double paired for the Villain I felt like throwing away two more bets only to see 10's full given my short chip position wasn't good. I also had a live read that villain was not likely bluffing.



Thoughts? Anyone vomiting about throwing an under full away?
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01-02-2014 , 11:06 AM
I don't play live, however the structure sounds a little similar to the lo stakes Triple Stud/Horse tourneys on PS, where you arrive at the final table with tiny stacks compared to bets and the whole thing becomes a crap shoot/luck fest...

Given that - I tend to stick to a big hand and just hope....you haven't mentioned the payout structure or whatever, how much 'in the black' are you for this tourney? Are you a pro or an amateur i.e is getting 4th as opposed to 5th important, or do you want the win for kudos and so on...how long do you have left before the games change and are you better at Stud 8 and so on..?

Don't get me wrong - I suspect you are beat; however he could have KK or JQ in the hole, even if he has a T you are not drawing dead, I would think that someone with half a brain and the small stacks would 3 bet you with AA or TT and just get it in - given the action so far I think you have to call and (probably) pray...but that is just me (who is not a pro and so is ok to come 5th rather than 4th and try to win!)
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01-02-2014 , 03:26 PM
Your hand looks like two pair and he'll have three pair often enough that you need to show down, especially since you won't go bust if you are wrong.
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01-03-2014 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Judice555
I don't play live, however the structure sounds a little similar to the lo stakes Triple Stud/Horse tourneys on PS, where you arrive at the final table with tiny stacks compared to bets and the whole thing becomes a crap shoot/luck fest...

Given that - I tend to stick to a big hand and just hope....you haven't mentioned the payout structure or whatever, how much 'in the black' are you for this tourney? Are you a pro or an amateur i.e is getting 4th as opposed to 5th important, or do you want the win for kudos and so on...how long do you have left before the games change and are you better at Stud 8 and so on..?

Don't get me wrong - I suspect you are beat; however he could have KK or JQ in the hole, even if he has a T you are not drawing dead, I would think that someone with half a brain and the small stacks would 3 bet you with AA or TT and just get it in - given the action so far I think you have to call and (probably) pray...but that is just me (who is not a pro and so is ok to come 5th rather than 4th and try to win!)
I probably play hold'em the best, but started playing stud first so have a decent amount of live hours. The rounds didn't cross my mind, as it's only 8 hands per.

I wanted to win(and had quashed talk of a chop.) Payout for first was 14xx and 5th was 300ish. So it wasn't a HUGE jump

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Originally Posted by electrical
Your hand looks like two pair and he'll have three pair often enough that you need to show down, especially since you won't go bust if you are wrong.
If it were a different player, or a bigger "event" I would have paid off, but my read was he was super strong and super duper fishy...I'm just not sure where the line is between trusting my gut and "you're a F##(@#(@ idiot you don't throw away fulls heads up on 6th ever! In hindsight I probably was on the call down side of the line, even with the instinct to fold.
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