Hi all,

$25/$50 $25 ante four-handed stud 8. Folds to hero otb who has A64r and goes for the steal. SB folds, BB pro 3! to $150. Hero?

Very novice to this game...answer and some explanation would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
DT

well, A64r in general in stud 8 is a fairly decent hand, so it's definitely not a steal. you can make lows, straights, have some wheel runouts, lows with aces, etc. had someone completed in front of you i would have re-raised them because this is the kind of hand that likes being isolated in case you catch another ace.

it's also important to note that a 1:1 ante to small bet ratio is really rare. a quarter ante structure tends to a typical one, to contrast it. but here, basically the antes are gigantic so you actually would want to be playing quite a few hands you wouldn't normally play, things with an ace, W, and brick in the hole for example. you just have fair equity kinda no matter what happens. so what does this imply? well, we should be playing LOTS of hands and stealing very often

anyway, back to the hand itself - it's good, you call and hopefully improve. and because pot is really big (cause of action pre and the antes) you peel 4th even if he catches good and you brick. and most likely same for 5th unless he has open aces or trips

btw, hard for us to tell what's going on here because you didn't post dead cards but yeah, extremely important to have that information in any given hand.

Thanks!

This sounds like PL, FWIW. Or like half PL or something. Also I'm guessing the ante is paid by one player not a per person ante

nah it's probably limit, OP raised to $100 and got three bet to $150 imo.

hmm i thought it was limit cause of the above post yeah

additionally i also suppose it could be 25 total in antes, but OP would need to confirm

to OP: if it was 25 in antes each then this is an enormous pot pre. but if you meant 25 in antes total this is actually a pretty normal game. either way open pre, call the raise, continue past 4th even if you brick, and if you brick 5th facing a yucky board, you still continue pretty often if they're mega antes. i also wanna add that offering general advice after that is tough, because because stud 8 is a weird game of complex nuance where upcards mean everything.

like in my own post i almost regret making it a bit too general because there are certainly board conditions where i'd still try to make my hand even if AA or open trips were out there if the pot was ginormous (depending on my own hand of course). stud 8 is not really a game of gospel of actions because board conditions can vary dramatic ways.

It’s limit, $25 ante per person actually. I opened to $75. Not sure if that was because I simply said “raise” and threw out a blackbird or because that’s the standard open in this game (or both?).

If it's limit then you don't have a choice how much you "open to". Having said that it sounds like 25a 75/150 limits since you went to 75 and he went to 150

note, in limit poker the name of the game is the betting limits, not the blinds. So for example a 10/20 LHE game would actually have blinds of 5 and 10. 10 refers to the bet size pre and on the flop, whereas the 20 is the bet size on the turn and river. For stud, the first bet is 3rd and 4th street, whereas 5th street and beyond is the second bet.


It is also crucial in limit poker to keep track of the pot in terms of small bets and/or big bets, as that will be the primary factor in determining whether you continue with various holdings or not.

kinda what i'm thinking also

Might take a few days to figure out what game he's playing, then maybe by the end of the week we'll get the upcards lol

Just messing Trunk, but structure of the game and the upcards are critical to analyzing in Stud, but why were you calling yourself otb?

and as others were saying, it's a good hand, so you are certainly at least calling, hope you weren't considering folding?

Against someone good, I'd prob 4 bet. Then again, I don't even know what his upcard was.