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01-06-2010 , 05:24 PM
Villain is unknown and has an ironman display on his avatar. My question is my sixth play. First off let me say that given the ironman there was a fair chance he was multi-tabling so if that is true villain will most likely play his cards face-up. So when he flats 3rd his range is mostly consisting of rough 8's, 7's and 6's I basically took wheel draws completely out of his range since we have no history and therefore no reason to play deceptively. His board governs his betting, meaning he is probably betting every street no matter what his whole cards. So when I caught an 8 I had an ahah moment if he had an 8 draw on 3rd I'm ahead and same with 6's and 7's so that's why I raised, does it make sense or am I spewing into a boardlock?

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Limit Razz $0.10 Ante - 8 players - View hand 460643
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3rd Street: (1.6 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx 8 ____Seat 1 folds
Seat 2: xx xx 3 ____Seat 2 folds
Seat 3: xx xx 5 ____Seat 3 completes____Seat 3 calls
Hero: 2 3 A ___Hero raises
Seat 5: xx xx 7 ____Seat 5 folds
Seat 6: xx xx T ____Seat 6 brings in for $0.15____Seat 6 folds
Seat 7: xx xx 6 ____Seat 7 folds
Seat 8: xx xx 9 ____Seat 8 folds

4th Street: (5.9 SB) (2 players)
Seat 3: xx xx 5 6 ____Seat 3 bets
Hero: 2 3 A T ___Hero calls

5th Street: (3.95 BB) (2 players)
Seat 3: xx xx 5 6 7 ____Seat 3 bets
Hero: 2 3 A T 6 ___Hero calls

6th Street: (5.95 BB) (2 players)
Seat 3: xx xx 5 6 7 K ____Seat 3 raises____Seat 3 caps!
Hero: 2 3 A T 6 8 ___Hero bets___Hero 3-bets___Hero calls

7th Street: (13.95 BB) (2 players)
Seat 3: xx xx 5 6 7 K xx____Seat 3 checks
Hero: 2 3 A T 6 8 3 ___Hero checks
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01-06-2010 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by High_SocietyA9
First off let me say that given the ironman there was a fair chance he was multi-tabling so if that is true villain will most likely play his cards face-up. So when he flats 3rd his range is mostly consisting of rough 8's, 7's and 6's I basically took wheel draws completely out of his range since we have no history and therefore no reason to play deceptively.

First, he might not have been multi-tabling, and/or it is definitely possible to play tricky when multi-tabling.

Second, there are a whole bunch of reasons that he might flat-call your raise on 3rd even with three to a wheel. Here are some:

- If he three-bets, you might be more likely to put him on an Ace or a deuce in the hole. He has one but doesn't want you to "know" it, so he flat calls.
- His outs are dead. For instance, as played, maybe he has 24 in the hole. With the door cards as they are, (24)5 is not that great of a hand -- I mean, it's certainly playable even for a cap, but it's not necessarily a jamming hand.
- He might flat-call your raise with his entire range. There are situations where I will do this, and one of those situations is villains with whom I have no history. Another is villains who have proven that they -- like you -- will automatically take this flat-call as 100% proof that I don't have a three-card 5.
- He might be playing above his comfort level as far as the stakes go. (Admittedly, not likely at 0.50/1.00 with the ironman chip on his avatar.)


Third, why would he raise 6th street with a four card 7?
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01-06-2010 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrennen
- His outs are dead. For instance, as played, maybe he has 24 in the hole. With the door cards as they are, (24)5 is not that great of a hand -- I mean, it's certainly playable even for a cap, but it's not necessarily a jamming hand.

Just to back this up with evidence... Assume that you'll raise to isolate with any three-card 8 or better... With a hand like 245, he'd actually be a 49:51 underdog against your range.
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01-06-2010 , 07:29 PM
If there's one thing I've learned, it's not to assume too much in the way of intelligence when it comes to small online games. Or live games. Unless I've known someone for a while or know that they're a 2+2er or something, I don't assume that they're varying their play for strategic reasons. For this reason, I think his hand is very face up on 6th and it was unwise to reraise, as you seem to have found out when he capped it.

You lost to a seven, no?
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