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09-28-2009 , 04:55 PM

theBruiser500

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3rd Street: (0.3 SB)
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4th Street: (2.3 SB) (2 players)
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09-28-2009 , 04:58 PM

theBruiser500

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hey MODS if ia m posting too many hands just let me know. my judgement tells me i am posting the right amount : )

Here I am just interested in the merits of different plans on 4th. Check/raising, leading, and check/calling. I think his most likely hand is a pair of threes, just cause it has the msot hand combos. Also a plan for different 5th street cards. Opponent is sloppy.

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09-28-2009 , 05:00 PM

blumpkin

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A little more info would help, but I don't mind anything (c/c, b/c, c/r) here depending on how you've been playing 4th street in similar spots and what you think his range is. If the 5 is offsuit, I think I'm betting 100%.

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09-28-2009 , 05:11 PM

Rush17

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I'm always betting on 4th just as I would do with split K's rolled K's or any other pair all the way down to a bluff.

blumpkin, if the 5 was offsuit, you said you think you'd be betting here 100%. On the times when you're not betting, are you c/f then? If you're not folding, than betting just has to be > than c/c, imo.

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09-28-2009 , 05:25 PM

Davdob

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I am with Rush. I bet 4th in this spot 100% of the time.

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09-28-2009 , 05:33 PM

skoldpadda

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lol, thread reads much better if you think this is a stud hi-low hand

"wtf are these people thinking?!"

for stud hi, definitely keep the lead in betting

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09-28-2009 , 06:57 PM

Eddie901

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Check-call is a reasonable line... a bet make look automatic but against many wild opponents, you will get a similarly automatic raise. Wouldn't it be better to wait till 5th to commit? So c-c looks right against some opponents.

As with all these judgments, the important thing is to know the guy you're up against.

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09-28-2009 , 07:20 PM

theBruiser500

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Eddie, when I'm figuring out what type of guy I'm up against, what sort of questions should I be asking myself here?

What about check/raise? It is reasonable to check/raise here with kings also especially cause he hits a scary card that we don't think actually hit him. And it gives us a chance to show more strength. Also if he checks behind with his baby pair that's not so bad for us cause we are behind, and we'd get a free card. And if we both check and we both brick I think we can still bet and win the turn(??)

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09-28-2009 , 07:33 PM

Eddie901

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Hey, I don't have these guys figured out, just play it by ear. Also you need to mix things up. But if the guy checks behind then you have regained the initiative. Nothing is written in stone.. calling you on 4th could indicate more strength than raising.

Many people post hands here asking questions. But, especially at higher limits (which I don't play), most of the time this seems too specific. IMHO the game or a session is not about individual hands but more of an adventure when you have to play the field...GL!

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09-28-2009 , 07:40 PM

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blumpkin

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It's fine (and a good idea) to c/f the worst of your hands here (especially if we caught like a deuce or something, and especially if he is the type to raise 4th a lot when he catches a coordinated board). To balance, you should c/r sometimes as well. With our hand, c/f is not an option.

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09-29-2009 , 12:27 AM

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Andy B

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I think you take this down on fifth plenty often that it's worth betting here. You could do worse than checking and calling, though.

Two or three threads per day is fine.

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09-29-2009 , 09:15 PM

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Pokerlogist

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IMHO Bet/call 4th because
1) it gives foe a chance to fold right away, ~1/3 of time foe will fold 4th
2) you are no worse than a small showdown underdog to a pair
3) you have hidden strength for implied value
4) of deception value, foe will be concerned you have a higher pocket pair and play passively
5) you charge him for diamond flush draw
6) checking screams "I don't have pair"

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