The shrinking of the Sands poker room is getting ridiculous. Was there last night and they've now roped off yet another portion to turn into baccarat tables.

You can barely move between tables at this point and if you dare back up your chair it will inevitably hit the person sitting behind you at the next table. Not even sure why they have the metal 'fence' around the PR anymore, it serves no purpose except to box everyone in. Should just remove it.

With all the tables crammed together and just one point of entry and a small 'gate' on the side, it's really become uncomfortable.

It has nothing to do with poker because poker will not earn any free rooms or additional comps outside of .70/hr but if you play table games that is where you can earn more comps

what do you mean they roped off "yet another" portion? this is the first time they took out 6 tables. The room hardly ever opened up all 36 tables anyway.

I do however wish they go back to deep wells on table 12 & 13 (formerly 18 & 19) because there is a lot of room back there (also a longer walk for chip runners anyway).

Hi Davey, I noticed you do not utilize Bravo details (live updates) for your tournaments. Any reason why?

Thank you

Anyone know what the Sunday daily 100+100 has been averaging?

Anyone have any details on the mega bad beat jackpot hitting? I see it reset down to below 100k.

Looks like mega BBJ hit. Amazing how table numbers drop after a hit.

Surprising, cause the room has so much other appeal, with the high rake and low comps and all.

BTW, the Commerce Club has 83 tables going now. Their BBJ must be huge.

Mr. Elf - I always know exactly how you will post even before I read it.

I think its comical that you compare the Commerce Club in LA to the Sands. I believe Commerce has a worse rake than Sands (and the worst rake in CA) and they also drop $1 for all their promos - which based on my last trip there are numerous.

Sorry you find the competition at Sands too much for you.

Shocked darkelf posted a noninformative post. Rake at sands is same as Parx and same as Harrahs. Penn national is 6 if you think 5 is high. I have never read a post from dark troll that offered any usable content.

It's 630 on Thursday and there was 9 of us on a 10/20 hold em list. The floor wouldn't open the game until there was 10. Needless to say when they did get 10 and we sat down the game couldn't go. WTF is the difference between 9 and 10? Inept fools running this room. So glad I decided to visit tonight. Wow. I wonder when they'll be taking the next six tables out of here

It's because many of the names aren't in the casino

You are this upset that you could get a 10-20 limit game going? That game isn't that popular with the younger crowd these days.

i can see his point. i have no interest in playing limit. but if i showed up at a casino and they had 0 games running and 9 of us were there waiting to play 1-2 while a table sat empty and dealer sat idle... and we were told they wouldn't start the game until there were 10 of us, i'd be pretty annoyed. start the game... collect the rake.

Exactly why wait for 10. He announced we have 6,we have 7,etc. Then when he decided to call it the game didn't go.
Younger crowd? A) i'm not young and B) what the point is you've missed.

I saw the 10/20 list on bravo and was excited to come down and play. Called first and guy said it was called and did not go. I did remember seeing 11 names on list on bravo. Definitely does suck when you look forward to game and it fails to go.

if the names have been on the list for hours, the top names most likely won't show. This is why I rather they call the 5/5 on saturdays when theres at least 14 names because I know it has a better chance of going.

We only know one side of the story, we don't know if:

a) there was a list of 1/2 ready to go with only one dead spread
b) they were waiting for a new shift to come in
c) too many dealers called out or took e.o.'s when it was slow
d) logistical issues
e) floor knew three names who left for the day
f) all of the above


It's only fair to look at it from both sides.

And to be fair to the guy reporting on the problem, without a rep clearing it up in the thread, players can go by only what they experience themselves.

I received an email last night that they are trying to get the 10-20 LHE game on Thursdays with a special rake of 4+1. (and 1+1 during happy hours 5-7pm). Just my luck - I can make it pretty much any day except Thursday evenings. I'll show up during the day to see if it gets going early, but unless something changes with my schedule, I unfortunately won't be there in the evening.

A few comments I have on this:

1. If anyone wants to do it Wednesdays or Fridays instead, let me know. I'm willing to play shorthanded to get it started (if they'll open the table short!) I'm sure if it gets going, the game will fill. I see it in casinos all the time that people are afraid to start a game, but once they see cards in the air, they grab a seat.

2. While I appreciate the reduced rake, I really hopes it's *not* 10% to $4+1. It should be 5% or just make it a timed game like Borgata. You don't want common scenarios like someone opens for $20, only bb calls, opener bets flop, BB folds and $5 is coming out of a $45 pot. That's too much taken off the table in a fast moving game and the game will dry up really quickly.

3. I'm concerned reading the posts about 11 names on the list and the game not being called. In my opinion, they should call it with about 7-8 names. Hopefully 5 or 6 players show up and start playing and within 30-60 minutes the game fills. It's very common for mid-limit games to get going like that.


That's all. I hope to have a game going next week early in the day!

Hi Davey, I noticed you do not utilize Bravo details (live updates) for your tournaments. Any reason why?

Thank you

For the last Saturday $300 tournament, 10 seats are given away in the morning. How are those handed out?

Thanks

I think that Sands management knows when a game has a chance to go or not without breaking another game. 10-20 Limit guys aren't milling around the casino waiting for it to be called, they are playing other games.

Just like the hot seat

I guess we'll never know the reason "why" but I'd be hard pressed to believe they are worried about it breaking up another game. It's not like there's some game with 1 table running that all the 10-20 players are sitting in. If they had 6-12 or 15-30 lhe running, then I could understand it, but the sands generally has multiple tables of 1-2 and 2-5 no limit with a constant flow of players always arriving for those games. I doubt the 3-6 lhe players are gonna play 10-20 (I actually asked them once when I started a list and got zero takers) and 5-5 and higher no limit players would never consider 10-20 lhe in my opinion. So, the 10-20 players are most likely sitting in 1-2 or 2-5 or playing craps, none of which will break if a few players leave.

Also, we know based on posts in this thread that some people like myself and pasandman would make a special trip to play if we know the game will get called. So, while you're right that we aren't milling about the casino waiting, the reality is that we may not come to the casino at all!

Apologies to all, was on vacation and catching up on the forum questions...

Mega Hit on Monday for $305,000. Was quad 8's vs 8 high straight flush.

Todays BBJ is roughly at $108,000.

Davey