Nah bro. The players are going to come. If they make a 400 75k, it’s going to easily beat 75k. Why should the casino take a risk on missing a gtn if they don’t need to.

I’ll take a 400 or 570 75k > 300 75k. I assume the recs wanna play cheapest buy in possible though so it probably doesn’t work out in TS’s best interest to raise the buyin. I’m hoping they can at least run a 570 1-2 times a year. The structure for the 570s were much better than the 250 turboment. If I had my druthers, ts would run a 400-600 with 2 starting flights, 30-40k starting stack with 40 min levels.

Come on TS. I wanna see TS big Stax (joke- parx big stax is by far best structure in northeast for buyin level).

Btw what do people here think of cash games at ts? I think it’s lame how you can buy in for pennies at 1-2 (what is min buy in 40)? I think it sucks people can limit their exposure and really hurt big stacks. I like big juicy games where it’s 1-2 and the average stack is 250-500. I will not play cash at ts anymore bc I just think it’s meh to allow people to buy in so short. That along with the fact there is almost no action at ts. I’ve played 2-3 sessions at borgata and had heaps of fun each time. At tstone, I may have put in 30-40 sessions. It’s all mawg that don’t have the disposable income to spew so the sit around and nit it up for high hands lol. I’m sure games are better on Friday and Saturday nights late but I just can’t take a 200max buy in game. If I’m playing, I wanna have a chance to make some money and not have to short stack a 2-5 game that prolly has better players than 1-2. Just my thoughts. Not bashing ts here. I just don’t find the games to have enough action where I wanna play.

They do occasionally have games at 1/2 where you can buy in to the deepest stack.

Tuesday's 2/5 game with button straddle and 1k buy in seems to be getting 2-3 tables.

As far as weekends, if you like O8 there is a $5/$10 limit game with a kill that gets a lot of chips in the middle. Decent percentage of the time the kill is active, making it $10/20.

If you are looking for bigger cash games, your best bet is to head about an hour west. 1/3 with buy in to table max on all tables. some of the games are playing no where near 1/3. More like 5/10 or a very deep 2/5 game.

As far as the comments about the 1/2 games at TS, they have been very successful running at these buy ins for years. They are catering to the casual rec who doesn't have a grand to blow through. Same thing with their tournaments. they don't want to price out the casual regs so raising the buy in would not make things better. I will agree that a $500 buy in would get players so they should try to run more of those.

I agree with this part here.

I think all the other properties popping up has hurt a little bit too. In NY State, dealers must be licensed to the property - and now the dealer pool is a little bit shallower. I'm sure TS would love to get a tournament going with hundreds of players - but the logistics of it might not be possible.

March Mania tournament details are up. New blind structure, starting 100-100 with BB ante at 2nd level. Goodbye 25 chips. Also new starting stack of 30k. Interested how this is going to go. I for one like this structure.

+1. A good move to get rid of the green 25s. Definitely a good move to increase the starting stack to 30k. Had been a while since TS made a positive adjustment to their tournaments.

TS made a structure change? No more 10000x big blind starting stack and 5 hours without an ante? No way

Yea I’m a big fan of the structure change. 25s are pointless. Please offer a 560 down the road with 40k starting stack and 45 min levels.

I mean it would be better than a 600bb starting stack like before but 400 is still way too much especially with a repeat 100 level. 300 is more than enough.

Also they've made it clear they are done with $500+ tournaments

Yea I agree I doubt we see 500s again... maybe for the August series but idk. Idk why you are against starting 600bb deep? I want a tourny that starts deep and doesn’t turn crapshooty quickly where it’s a shove fest and the average is 20-30 bbs in the money. This new structure is worse off in the beginning but grinds out to be better in later levels of day 1 so I like it. 600bbs deep, recs are going to punt off chips in spots they should so idk why anyone would be against this that isn’t clueless.

I’m my opinion, I wanna see a 500 with 40–45 min levels and only one flight per day. I would be fine with gtn being lowered as I could care less about the gtn bc guarantees never lead to overlay. I feel 40-45 min levs are infinitely better than 30 min levs. I understand why a 250 has 30 min levels though.

Another cool structure I would recommend is maybe throw a cheaper buy in with a 40k or 50k stack and 20min levels (turbo). With additional chips, wouldn’t get too bad quickly with quick levels. I wish they would tack on a small gtn on sundays to the 2 day events for people that bust to enter/ people that didn’t make day 2 which is what roughly 70-80% of the entries for the main mtt.

Finally one more idea- why not have a superstack event to spice things up. Maybe 100k starting stack and start at say 200-300 or 200-400. Just my thoughts.

I’m a big fan of the structure change. It’s not going to make a huge difference but I feel day 2 play is going to be slightly deeper. Past mtt was 2400bb with 20k stack (8.33bbs) and this is 30k-3k bb (10bbs) for last level of day 1. Theoretically more players should make day 2 and stacks slightly deeper due to more chips along with fact day 2 structure is nice with 40min levels.

Only someone clueless would think starting a tournament with 600bb is the way to get a good structure later in the tourny when it matters. That is definitely not how you do it lol.

Starting a tournament with 600bb is only done to appeal to 80 year olds and super recs who want to play for six hours without a chance of busting.

There's a reason TS is the only casino I've ever heard of that does it.

I want tournaments to start deep too. 300bb is DEEP.

Yes, this is a good change. A starting stack between levels 5-10 (where meaningful poker play actually begins) is now 75-25bb deep instead of 66-20bb deep. Starting "deeper" is worthless if it means the average stack is shorter within a few levels.

And like always +1 on running more $500+ buyins.

About time they removed the 25 chips. Well done.

Now they just got to do 100k gtds (that never overplayed) and we are looking better.

Just to document...TS has had $300 high hands every half hour on Fridays for a good while. Today me and my buddy drove the 45 minutes it takes us to get there and came to learn from other players that they had reduced the high hand to $100 every half hour for the duration of the promotion. I’m aware that they’re allowed to do whatever they want with the promotion, but it just doesn’t seem to be a good PR move to do something like this. Just my .02.

We do not take reducing the promos lightly at TS. You forgot to mention that there was an active major snowstorm hitting the area and hindered guests from getting here which resulted in the decision to reduce the High Hand promotion. The reduction in high hands was the first time in the past 5 years that we have done so and we have promos every day. We have never reduced or cancelled a promotion based on low turn out.

Keep in mind, the promo fund IS NOT the casinos money, Turning Stone DID NOT save money by reducing the promotion...our intention was/is to protect the integrity of the promo fund... which is the players money...There were many guests who could not make it here due to the weather who have also contributed to the fund. To blow a large portion of the fund on a promo hampered by weather did not seem like the right thing to do just as completely cancelling the promotion would also not have been the right thing to do. That is why we still had a reduced promotion for the guests who were or did get here.

Finally, as far as PR, on at least 22 occasions in the past 20 months we have raised or extended High Hands beyond what were advertised. We have added cracked aces and Hot Seat draws as extras to promotions when they were not advertised. That never gets mentioned on social media and certainly outnumbers this one time that we did reduce a promotion so I just wanted to put that out there.

To all guests, please know that you can come to me direct to discuss any issue or ask any questions. I have no problem explaining decisions and facts in person. My door is always open and my phone is always on!

Thank you!

That all makes a lot of sense. Appreciate the thorough response Frank! Looking forward to more positive improvements to the poker room, as the recent upgrade to the March $50k GTD is a good move.

My pleasure and thanks!!! Please stop by and say hi next time you are in.

Having the priv of knowing Frankie for over a dozen or so years I am happy to step up to defend him on his decision to address the promotion relevant to the players to enjoy it. If a snowstorm rolls up and those that built the prize pool couldn't make it out to play for it then a temp. reduction seems fair. He's not taking away the promo but balancing the opportunities for all. Go Frankie keep on making T.S. a talking destination we hear about it here all the time.

Always great to hear from you my friend and the priv is mine...hope you can visit when the weather warms up. Miss all my buds from Delaware, the Jersey Shore and Philly!!!

To all our guests and staff members, as most may know, we are suspending operations as of 5pm today Monday, March 16th 2020 until further notice.

We wish for everyone to stay safe through these current conditions and please do all that is necessary to protect yourself and your families. Remember to check in on the elderly, as they are the most vulnerable to whats out there.

We hope to see all of you back here healthy, safe and sound when the time is appropriate! Thank you.... Frankie

Hey Frankie just saw the news and want to wish you the best on a safe reopening

any plans beyond just getting open at this time or are things in a holding pattern until it goes well?

Hear they are opening June 10th We’d. Not sure about the details. But nice to have Live poker back.

Thanks to both of you and hello to all!!!, yes we are back in business today Wednesday June 10th!!! The website has the restrictions and limitations posted for guests to check but we will have live poker by 10am. We will be seating a max of 7 players for now, guests will need to wear a face covering while on property. We are excited to be back, we missed all of you and hope to see you soon!

This is great news! Are you using dividers or nah

Hi Play...no dividers !