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Everyone please note that as the TI room rep, Spartan is more than happy to answer questions about things going on in the TI room, but that the 2+2 advertising rules forbid him from proactively talking about game schedule or "X is running" kind of updates. Apologies, but I have to play the bad guy on this one and request it not turn into an update about games currently running, or upcoming promotions. He'll still be around to answer questions, though.

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01-16-2012 , 04:28 PM

#152

sevup

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Originally Posted by RayPowers

Not sure I understand the reasoning for this, especially when the rep for Borgata is allowed to give up dates daily on what games are running and answer the same types of promotion questions daily as well.

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01-16-2012 , 05:27 PM

#153

eckstein88

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Originally Posted by sevup

Check Ray's location, it should make more sense to you then.

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01-16-2012 , 08:04 PM

#154

IseizeDeadMonies

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Originally Posted by sevup

That's what I'm wondering.

Also wondering how various venue threads have numerous posters promoting specific games as well if this is forbidden.

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01-16-2012 , 08:19 PM

#155

bav

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Originally Posted by IseizeDeadMonies

That's what I'm wondering.

Also wondering how various venue threads have numerous posters promoting specific games as well if this is forbidden.

My understanding is that as a player I can come here and say "let's get a mix game going at TI tomorrow". Room employees cannot do that. I can post and say "TI had 4 NL1/2 games and a NL2/5 last night". I can ask "what games did you have running last night and what games are running currently" and Troy can answer.

Sortof a speak-when-spoken-to thing. Troy gets to answer questions, but not proactively promote--that'd be using 2+2 to advertise without paying 'em for the privilege. But I haven't gone looking for the specific written 2+2 rules lately so I may be slightly off in my memory.

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01-16-2012 , 08:34 PM

#156

MSUspartan4

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Originally Posted by bav

That's my understanding as well.

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01-16-2012 , 10:13 PM

#157

LVPILET

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Just give Mason money to advertise, and everything will be fine. Right Mason?
He will have an extra buyin at 20/40 holdem.

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01-16-2012 , 10:25 PM

#158

parisron

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Just get on the bravo app and problem solved for free.

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01-17-2012 , 12:48 AM

#159

MSUspartan4

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Originally Posted by parisron

Just get on the bravo app and problem solved for free.

It's coming very soon.

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01-17-2012 , 04:21 AM

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chillrob

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Originally Posted by sevup

Borgata room manager was held to the same rules until he paid for more privileges...

Last edited by chillrob; 01-17-2012 at 04:45 AM.

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01-17-2012 , 05:37 AM

#161

LVPILET

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Originally Posted by chillrob

Borgata room manager was held to the same rules until he paid for more privileges...

TI Poker Room Manager must pay Mason. Its the Las Vegas way.

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01-17-2012 , 02:32 PM

#162

IseizeDeadMonies

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Originally Posted by bav

Ah ok that makes sense then

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01-17-2012 , 06:47 PM

#163

RayPowers

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Originally Posted by eckstein88

Check Ray's location, it should make more sense to you then.

I am a mean, mean person.

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01-24-2012 , 01:03 AM

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pig4bill

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I played there last night and saw something that doesn't make sense. A guy was playing 1/3 and busted. It was a pretty friendly table and there were no grumpy rules nits playing. The guy that busted tried to re-buy for $50, but the dealer told him that short buys are not allowed, even for a re-buy. I said that I doubted anyone playing would mind and the dealer said "No short buys, no exceptions".

Why, msuspartan? How does it benefit TI to force this guy to leave the table instead of playing his fifty bucks? There was no list, so the table played 1 short.

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01-24-2012 , 01:50 AM

#165

veeRob

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Originally Posted by pig4bill

Very standard.

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01-24-2012 , 06:24 AM

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MSUspartan4

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Originally Posted by pig4bill

There are a few reasons why. 1st, just because there wasn't a list and there would then be an open seat doesn't mean it should be allowed. It can't be done on a case by case basis. Either we allow short buys, or we don't. We choose not to allow short buys. We prefer to cater to the player that has at least 100 dollars to play. We want to induce action, we want money on the table, we don't want short stacking players who fold until they pick up aces. We allow 1 short buy, in limit games only, but it's pretty standard to not allow short buys in no limit games.

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01-25-2012 , 01:09 AM

#167

pig4bill

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Apparently I usually play in non-standard places. If you ever played in them, you would realize that the mythical short-stacker you describe as folding until they get aces, doesn't exist. They buy in, they get stacked, they re-buy short, they shove anything with a hint of promise.

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01-25-2012 , 03:28 AM

#168

MSUspartan4

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Originally Posted by pig4bill

Short stacking nits definitely exist. If I wasn't a poker room rep, I would go into much more detail. I was just explaining the reasoning behind our policy on this particular rule.

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01-25-2012 , 01:15 PM

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psandman

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Originally Posted by pig4bill

The value of shortstacking doesn't come from waiting for AA. It comes from getting it in on the draw and not having to call additional bets to see the draw.

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01-30-2012 , 12:52 AM

#170

Chazley

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Update on how the promo is going? Room seeing a noticeable boost in traffic this month? How many tables running on average?

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01-30-2012 , 04:53 AM

#171

MSUspartan4

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Originally Posted by Chazley

Update on how the promo is going? Room seeing a noticeable boost in traffic this month? How many tables running on average?

Last week was pretty slow, seems some regulars were taking a short break. 1 day into this new week, and we seem busy again. 2 full tables all day. We are running at a significant increase in business levels compared to last year.

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01-30-2012 , 11:04 PM

#172

sevup

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What games have been running Troy? Gonna be out there Weds and plan on staying for awhile, gonna stop in and check it out.
thanks

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01-31-2012 , 01:30 AM

#173

MSUspartan4

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Originally Posted by sevup

What games have been running Troy? Gonna be out there Weds and plan on staying for awhile, gonna stop in and check it out.
thanks

Almost exclusively $1-$3 NLH. Games have been good though, and I'm not just saying that...we have had some good tourist action lately.

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02-05-2012 , 01:27 AM

#174

jabroni16

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was at TI slightly before noon a couple times last week and it didn't seem as though there were many players taking advantage of this new policy. I'm guessing the reason was because it hadn't been advertised enough around town for players who don't frequent TI to be aware of it. As only a visitor I would have been inclined to play at TI had I known about this deal while in LV. Hopefully it hangs around for a bit until next trip.